Post by Olaf Plunket on Apr 29, 2024 1:28:46 GMT
Olaf Plunket
I found a lecture of
Manfred Eigen
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_Eigen
where he describes what happened before the first cell was created.
You might skip some of the first minutes,
Eigen takes his time until he gets warm.
all we can see today is so complicated that it couldn't come out "de novo"
I recommend watching x1.5 with subtitles,
some name are butchered as the subtitles don't know for example this guy
Ernst Mayr
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Mayr
see Mayr's contribution to evolution theory there
among others mentioned in the lecture are
Sidney W. Fox
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_W._Fox
I studied biology in college. When It came time to sell my textbook back, I did not. I kept it. I still have it. It is 1175 pages (designed for at least two semesters). I only had one semester for my studies in journalism, but I knew I would want to keep the book and study it all. It does contain a comprehensive examination of all the science there ever was on these topics, except that is for Mayr and Fox. Mayr might have been omitted because there is nothing but word games going on there that do not reveal anything. In the textbook there is a discussion of the possibility of life existing near places in the ocean where magma/lava vents into it. That theory is not taken very seriously because heat is so destructive. That's the "pictures or it didn't happen" story. And no, there are no pictures.
"He [Fox] also believed that the uniformity meant that there was a sophisticated system that kept the microspheres at equilibrium." That sounds like Fox had no pictures himself.
Rather scientists believe that complex interdependent systems to capture energy from the environment, store it, and use it for specific purposes must exist for life to exist. The "microspheres" have none of that. That sort of complexity requires rather large libraries of RNA and reproduction requires DNA. Therefore many tests have been made using short chains of RNA to find out whether they can grow. This time there are pictures. However the complexity life requires is not being achieved.