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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 8, 2020 10:41:09 GMT
Looks interesting covers both sides of extremism.... www.politicshome.com/news/world/united-states/house/house-magazine/110379/review-going-dark-%E2%80%93-secret-social-livesJulia Ebner was deservedly praised for her first book, The Rage – The Vicious Circle of Islamist and Far-Right Extremism, which shone a light on the interdependence of apparently viscerally opposed groups. Thus one group’s actions justify the other’s narrative of victimhood that then provokes them to act in response, which in turn further reinforces the first group’s sense of grievance leading them to take yet more extreme action – and so on. But for her second book, Going Dark – The Secret Social Lives of Extremists, Julia Ebner deserves a medal – a medal for bravery. In it she describes her experiences going undercover to join a series of extremist groupings, such as Trad Wives and MuslimTec, attending neo-Nazi rock festivals, and participating in closed online forums plotting ISIS cyberattacks on American infrastructure and orchestrating the extreme-right presence at Charlottesville. In doing so, she exposes how extremist thinking – whether alt-right or Islamist – is propagated, how neophytes are drawn in and how ideology is turned into violent action. The attitudes she describes within the groups she infiltrated are scary – not least in the medieval attitudes to women that were displayed.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Mar 8, 2020 17:58:29 GMT
Yawn.
If that's her story, she seems to fail to get to the root cause of all of this - islam is rotten to the core.
All this alt right would not exist if islam modernised itself.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 8, 2020 19:15:56 GMT
I wonder if the alt-right explains Islamist attacks in Phillipines, Thailand, Indonesia, Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria ect ect ect.
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 9, 2020 14:10:09 GMT
Yawn. If that's her story, she seems to fail to get to the root cause of all of this - islam is rotten to the core. All this alt right would not exist if islam modernised itself. All this alt right would not exist if islam modernised itself. You think the alt right is purely about Muslims? Way beyond that.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Mar 9, 2020 16:30:40 GMT
You think the alt right is purely about Muslims? Way beyond that. I didn't say that, I said it was the root cause. They may have taken up other causes as well, but none of those other causes would have brought them into existence. That was islam solely. The left is determined to fill the west with muslims for their own gain without any care for the detriment it causes. It is quite justified that people resist that. The left is an absolute disgrace to western liberal values.
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 9, 2020 17:19:34 GMT
You think the alt right is purely about Muslims? Way beyond that. I didn't say that, I said it was the root cause. They may have taken up other causes as well, but none of those other causes would have brought them into existence. That was islam solely. The left is determined to fill the west with muslims for their own gain without any care for the detriment it causes. It is quite justified that people resist that. The left is an absolute disgrace to western liberal values. "The left is determined to fill the west with muslims for their own gain" Course they are, oh wait a minute, it's the Tories letting them in for the last decade and missing every target to cut numbers. Only the people who control policy can do anything whatever the "left" wants. Hold the anti left rhetoric and blame the right folk or you just sound ridiculously politically biased.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Mar 9, 2020 18:41:50 GMT
Course they are, oh wait a minute, it's the Tories letting them in for the last decade and missing every target to cut numbers. Only the people who control policy can do anything whatever the "left" wants. Hold the anti left rhetoric and blame the right folk or you just sound ridiculously politically biased. Oh give it a rest. The left have an absolute hard-on for muslims. As soon as anyone suggests anything remotely critical of muslims, the left go into overdrive to get that speech stopped, get the person ostracised and keep the door open. Ditto anyone suggesting immigration control, because it curtails the flow of those who are going to vote for the left. You must have a case of severe blinkeritis if you can't see that.
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 9, 2020 20:21:12 GMT
Course they are, oh wait a minute, it's the Tories letting them in for the last decade and missing every target to cut numbers. Only the people who control policy can do anything whatever the "left" wants. Hold the anti left rhetoric and blame the right folk or you just sound ridiculously politically biased. Oh give it a rest. The left have an absolute hard-on for muslims. As soon as anyone suggests anything remotely critical of muslims, the left go into overdrive to get that speech stopped, get the person ostracised and keep the door open. Ditto anyone suggesting immigration control, because it curtails the flow of those who are going to vote for the left. You must have a case of severe blinkeritis if you can't see that. Again, who has done nothing to lower the numbers of immigrants in the last decade,when after promising to get the numbers hugely down, they have gone up.? Must be Corbyn. As I say, it make fuck all difference what the incompetent Labour Party wants, the Tories are allowing the immigrants in. But I'm blinkered? The numbers will never go down when you keep giving the perpetrators a free pass.
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