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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 0:08:18 GMT
Godless can be moral? Is that a joke? The Godful can be evil as Satan himself…who believes in God, by the way…so why is it impossible for an atheist to be moral? Were you going to answer my question?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 0:20:10 GMT
The Godful can be evil as Satan himself…who believes in God, by the way…so why is it impossible for an atheist to be moral? Were you going to answer my question? Jesus H Christ. Godless can be moral? Yes. Is that a joke?No.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 16, 2022 8:06:40 GMT
Because in most Muslim majority nations there is not freedom of religion, separation of church and state, and there is an abiding bigotry toward secularism. I think most Americans, whether they are fanatical or not, would not vote for an atheist believing such godless folk are incapable of being upright and moral. Go figure. So, the base issue is not the faith of either Christians or Muslims, but their lack of education about other religions and cultures in general. Godless can be moral? Is that a joke? Godful have a monopoly on morality? That's the joke - religious people are some of the most hateful, divisive people there are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 11:20:34 GMT
Were you going to answer my question? Jesus H Christ. Godless can be moral? Yes. Is that a joke?No. Define "moral" first.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 20:23:44 GMT
Jesus H Christ. Godless can be moral? Yes. Is that a joke?No. Define "moral" first. No, sir. I answered your questions. You’ll have to find out what “moral” means on your own.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2022 20:48:55 GMT
No, sir. I answered your questions. You’ll have to find out what “moral” means on your own. That's what I thought. You're afraid to be specific because you fear being proven wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 19:03:56 GMT
Godless can be moral? Is that a joke? Godful have a monopoly on morality? That's the joke - religious people are some of the most hateful, divisive people there are. Practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral. Godless have their own twisted version of morality it never holds up to scrutiny. When I say moral I mean good vs evil.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Apr 10, 2022 7:02:26 GMT
Godful have a monopoly on morality? That's the joke - religious people are some of the most hateful, divisive people there are. Practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral. Godless have their own twisted version of morality it never holds up to scrutiny. When I say moral I mean good vs evil. Even your Church does not teach this.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 12:14:37 GMT
Practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral. Godless have their own twisted version of morality it never holds up to scrutiny. When I say moral I mean good vs evil. Even your Church does not teach this. Doesnt teach what?
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Apr 12, 2022 13:14:25 GMT
Even your Church does not teach this. Doesnt teach what? If you are a Roman Catholic, it does not teach that “practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral.” Read the second chapter of the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium. You can only judge others moral behavior if your own moral behavior is spotless. I think Jesus told this to his followers enough times and he advises against being judgmental because the Big Guy will remember at Judgement Day. And, the code of morals of anybody are like a tree. If the tree is healthy, so will be its fruit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 13:37:15 GMT
If you are a Roman Catholic, it does not teach that “practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral.” Read the second chapter of the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium. You can only judge others moral behavior if your own moral behavior is spotless. I think Jesus told this to his followers enough times and he advises against being judgmental because the Big Guy will remember at Judgement Day. And, the code of morals of anybody are like a tree. If the tree is healthy, so will be its fruit. I never claimed the Catholic Church taught "only practicing Christians can be moral" That was my opinion and I stand by it. No, we dont need to have a spotless moral record to judge others. That is something the non religious repeat ad nauseam. We are allowed to judge others. In fact God asks us to call out people for their sinful behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 13:46:30 GMT
And yes I am aware of the "judge not lest ye be judged" "splinter in your neighbors eye, log in your own eye" etc. passages that always get quoted out of context. ![[sleep]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/AjYgJEuorbWZunuxnSkO.gif) Those are the passages I was referring to that get posted "ad nauseam"
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Apr 12, 2022 21:30:37 GMT
If you are a Roman Catholic, it does not teach that “practicing Christians are the only people who can truly be moral.” Read the second chapter of the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium. You can only judge others moral behavior if your own moral behavior is spotless. I think Jesus told this to his followers enough times and he advises against being judgmental because the Big Guy will remember at Judgement Day. And, the code of morals of anybody are like a tree. If the tree is healthy, so will be its fruit. I never claimed the Catholic Church taught "only practicing Christians can be moral" That was my opinion and I stand by it.
No, we dont need to have a spotless moral record to judge others. That is something the non religious repeat ad nauseam. We are allowed to judge others. In fact God asks us to call out people for their sinful behavior. And I didn’t say you did, but according to the rules, you are sinning by making that statement. You are being judgmental, which is God’s domain, not yours, and your response is prideful. So, I’m calling you out for your sinful behavior.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Apr 12, 2022 21:34:29 GMT
And yes I am aware of the "judge not lest ye be judged" "splinter in your neighbors eye, log in your own eye" etc. passages that always get quoted out of context. ![[sleep]](http://storage2.proboards.com/6870873/images/AjYgJEuorbWZunuxnSkO.gif) Those are the passages I was referring to that get posted "ad nauseam" Jesus was very ad nauseam about it, wasn’t he. Got him killed. ![[yes]](http://storage2.proboards.com/6870873/images/fDNOMYWwtDsMxdpbcTXP.gif) The religious Right Wingers in power at the time didn’t like his woke loud mouth one bit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2022 21:54:58 GMT
I never claimed the Catholic Church taught "only practicing Christians can be moral" That was my opinion and I stand by it.
No, we dont need to have a spotless moral record to judge others. That is something the non religious repeat ad nauseam. We are allowed to judge others. In fact God asks us to call out people for their sinful behavior. And I didn’t say you did, but according to the rules, you are sinning by making that statement. You are being judgmental, which is God’s domain, not yours, and your response is prideful. So, I’m calling you out for your sinful behavior. We are allowed to be judgmental.
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