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Post by Hnefahogg on Sept 19, 2021 13:06:18 GMT
Had it not been for their languages, Turks and Greeks would have been hard to tell apart. 😜
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 19, 2021 13:07:19 GMT
Not really up to date on American youth culture but isn't "incel" a right wing thing? More of a dysfunctional thing, happens anywhere, I would say. And I do say. I think as a "movement" in the US it's very much a right wing thing from what I have read. Not talking about the general casual misogyny so beloved of message board posters (take a bow, Hux) but this newer systematic concept.
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 19, 2021 13:10:29 GMT
Had it not been for their languages, Turks and Greeks would have been hard to tell apart. 😜 Really? Some Turks are dark skinned. Greeks not so much.
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Post by Hnefahogg on Sept 19, 2021 13:25:15 GMT
Had it not been for their languages, Turks and Greeks would have been hard to tell apart. 😜 Really? Some Turks are dark skinned. Greeks not so much. There is not much genetic difference between Cypriot Greeks and Turks (perhaps I should have stated Cypriots, but, well, they are considered ethnic Greeks). Both of them are essentially Anatolian. This guy is Greek with his Cypriot mother and mainland father:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 13:26:02 GMT
Had it not been for their languages, Turks and Greeks would have been hard to tell apart. 😜 That is true for the Mediterranean and Aegean Turks. They lived together for centuries.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2021 13:29:00 GMT
Please don't play ignorant. I am not playing ignorant. Please give me the example of leftwing misogyny that you are talking about. I didn't say it was a left-wing ideology, I said they supported it - islam. Lefties love it.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2021 13:30:40 GMT
More of a dysfunctional thing, happens anywhere, I would say. And I do say. I think as a "movement" in the US it's very much a right wing thing from what I have read. Not talking about the general casual misogyny so beloved of message board posters (take a bow, Hux) but this newer systematic concept. But according to you, you don't keep up with US stuff. So.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 13:30:59 GMT
I am not playing ignorant. Please give me the example of leftwing misogyny that you are talking about. I didn't say it was a left-wing ideology, I said they supported it - islam. Lefties love it. No. You are playing ignorant. I think and I am not alone here, that you have a much better chance of helping the women when you integrate Muslims here. Which goes hand in hand with giving women education and qualify them to work, so they make their own money. That solves many problems automatically. If you want to modernize a society, start with women and make sure, they can make their own money.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2021 13:34:23 GMT
I didn't say it was a left-wing ideology, I said they supported it - islam. Lefties love it. No. You are playing ignorant. I think and I am not alone here, that you have a much better chance of helping the women when you integrate Muslims here. Which goes hand in hand with giving women education and qualify them to work, so they make their own money. That solves many problems automatically. If you want to modernize a society, start with women and make sure, they can make their own money. All good but goes against islam. So my point stands - lefties love a misogynistic ideology.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 13:37:38 GMT
No. You are playing ignorant. I think and I am not alone here, that you have a much better chance of helping the women when you integrate Muslims here. Which goes hand in hand with giving women education and qualify them to work, so they make their own money. That solves many problems automatically. If you want to modernize a society, start with women and make sure, they can make their own money. All good but goes against islam. So my point stands - lefties love a misogynistic ideology. Who cares? If you want to live here, you need to people who work. And work and education gives them access to birth control. Which is another advantage. Believe me, it is impossible to support a household with Hartz IV, (financial state support). It's not enough.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2021 13:55:15 GMT
All good but goes against islam. So my point stands - lefties love a misogynistic ideology. Who cares? If you want to live here, you need to people who work. And work and education gives them access to birth control. Which is another advantage. Believe me, it is impossible to support a household with Hartz IV, (financial state support). It's not enough. I care. Importing an ideology which is counter to western values is a bad idea.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 13:56:49 GMT
Who cares? If you want to live here, you need to people who work. And work and education gives them access to birth control. Which is another advantage. Believe me, it is impossible to support a household with Hartz IV, (financial state support). It's not enough. I care. Importing an ideology which is counter to western values is a bad idea. Did it ever occur to you that at least 95% of those people come here precisely because they disagree with that ideology? They don't go to Saudi Arabia, where you have the most radical form of Islam.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Sept 19, 2021 14:00:25 GMT
I care. Importing an ideology which is counter to western values is a bad idea. Did it ever occur to you that at least 95% of those people come here precisely because they disagree with that ideology? They don't go to Saudi Arabia, where you have the most radical form of Islam. Bullshit - they want to get away from dictators, not the religion. They bring it with them. Don't give me some shit like they suddenly adapt to western values.
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Post by yggdrasil on Sept 19, 2021 14:00:30 GMT
I think as a "movement" in the US it's very much a right wing thing from what I have read. Not talking about the general casual misogyny so beloved of message board posters (take a bow, Hux) but this newer systematic concept. But according to you, you don't keep up with US stuff. So. As I say, it's purely what I have read about the phenomenon, will look further.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2021 14:07:12 GMT
Did it ever occur to you that at least 95% of those people come here precisely because they disagree with that ideology? They don't go to Saudi Arabia, where you have the most radical form of Islam. Bullshit - they want to get away from dictators, not the religion. They bring it with them. Don't give me some shit like they suddenly adapt to western values. And in many cases, these dictators are radical Muslims. If they want the religion, why don't they go to Saudi Arabia and Iran or in fact any other Muslim country?
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