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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 29, 2022 12:43:51 GMT
Figure I'd post this here too. Try and get some other opinions
Muahaha
Just wondering what your general interpretation of the devil is or if anyone has done their bible studies. I remember on some youtube vid that he's only mentioned twice in the holy book and the fact that it is unclear if he's actually some major evil entity or an entity at all for that matter. That being said, I think it failed to mention his encounter with Jesus? Do you acknowledge his existence? Thoughts? Maybe there's more in the non-canon books? Like the Book of Enoch for example?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 29, 2022 12:45:33 GMT
Exist as a being? No.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2022 19:50:36 GMT
Are you Christian and do you believe the bible?
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 30, 2022 6:57:32 GMT
Nothing to do with Christianity, just an aspect of dualism, the yang to the yin, the darkness to light, the goodness to bad. You have a spiritual belief for when good happens you need one to blame for the failure of the crops etc.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 30, 2022 9:15:52 GMT
Nothing to do with Christianity, just an aspect of dualism, the yang to the yin, the darkness to light, the goodness to bad. You have a spiritual belief for when good happens you need one to blame for the failure of the crops etc. You have crops? |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 9:50:52 GMT
Are you Christian and do you believe the bible? Yeah technically Im Roman Catholic but Im on the fence about God |
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 31, 2022 10:08:26 GMT
Are you Christian and do you believe the bible? Yeah technically Im Roman Catholic but Im on the fence about God It's the "Church" that's bad though. As Lenny Bruce said "I'm for God, just against Religion". That's why the early Church got rid of Gnosticism and made it a heresy, it didn't require the Church aspect so men couldn't take any power for themselves and act as mouthpieces for the "divine". |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 10:10:58 GMT
Yeah technically Im Roman Catholic but Im on the fence about God It's the "Church" that's bad though. As Lenny Bruce said "I'm for God, just against Religion". That's why the early Church got rid of Gnosticism and made it a heresy, it didn't require the Church aspect so men couldn't take any power for themselves and act as mouthpieces for the "divine". It's funny when people say this but they never mention all the good they do too. Could there be some bad actors? Sure, just like any other organization |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 31, 2022 10:18:34 GMT
It's the "Church" that's bad though. As Lenny Bruce said "I'm for God, just against Religion". That's why the early Church got rid of Gnosticism and made it a heresy, it didn't require the Church aspect so men couldn't take any power for themselves and act as mouthpieces for the "divine". It's funny when people say this but they never mention all the good they do too. Could there be some bad actors? Sure, just like any other organization But if the whole thing is founded on bad intentions (controlling people), why give it any leeway at all? |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 10:20:55 GMT
It's funny when people say this but they never mention all the good they do too. Could there be some bad actors? Sure, just like any other organization But if the whole thing is founded on bad intentions (controlling people), why give it any leeway at all? In the past it was like that. No one's forcing anyone today to do anything unless you're a Mormon etc |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 31, 2022 10:26:02 GMT
But if the whole thing is founded on bad intentions (controlling people), why give it any leeway at all? In the past it was like that. No one's forcing anyone today to do anything unless you're a Mormon etc But it's still a massive exercise in money-making with terrible principles at its very core (old testament, for example). |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 10:30:53 GMT
In the past it was like that. No one's forcing anyone today to do anything unless you're a Mormon etc But it's still a massive exercise in money-making with terrible principles at its very core (old testament, for example). The funding has to come from somewhere. Also sensible Christians which are the majority are everyday people, it's not like they're truly devout. Not sure what you're trying to prove here. Im talking about practice not theory. Could the Church be updated/improved? Sure, just like anything else |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Mar 31, 2022 10:54:59 GMT
But it's still a massive exercise in money-making with terrible principles at its very core (old testament, for example). The funding has to come from somewhere. How about the hoarding and expecting everyone else to cough up in hard times instead of selling some of their MASSIVE land and art portfolios - where's that in the bible? Sure, but if they cleaned up nazism I still wouldn't go there. |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 10:58:05 GMT
The funding has to come from somewhere. How about the hoarding and expecting everyone else to cough up in hard times instead of selling some of their MASSIVE land and art portfolios - where's that in the bible? Sure, but if they cleaned up nazism I still wouldn't go there. Have you not heard or seen all the charitable things the Church actually does? Well, thats your prerogative. No one's forcing you to |
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Post by [--Leviathan--] on Mar 31, 2022 11:18:59 GMT
I would just like to add the Church was instrumentally important in the past by keeping the Muslims at bay ie the Crusades
I mean look what happened in Spain
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