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Post by yggdrasil on May 13, 2018 12:14:10 GMT
They can't stop anything, the problems seem to lie with splits in the Conservative cabinet and the unworkable fantasy Irish customs border. They have the power to stop us exiting with no deal. That seriously undermines our negotiator's position. It is the worst and most naive political decision ever in the history of recentness. It shows that they are clueless naive fools who do not understand negotiation in the slightest. We should have someone like Trump negotiating this - he knows what he's doing when it comes to this kind of thing. Do you believe that ministers of the Government should decide rather than Parliament what happens if they have been unable to sort it out in two years? If they'd spent less time bickering in cabinet and the newspapers then it could have been decided long ago.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on May 13, 2018 12:24:20 GMT
Do you believe that ministers of the Government should decide rather than Parliament what happens if they have been unable to sort it out in two years? If they'd spent less time bickering in cabinet and the newspapers then it could have been decided long ago. Sort it out in 2 years? What are you talking about? Article 50 was only triggered last year, that's when the discussions started. And no, 1 year is not a long time for this. What they need to do is this: 1. Separate leaving from the new trade deal into 2 separate streams of negotiation with 2 different teams which deliberately do not pay attention to each other. 2. Accept that they are not the best people for this and get some experienced negotiators involved. Experienced negotiators would never say anything to the press. And please don't make out this is down to the government, any political party would be doing the same because politicians thrive on press coverage. We need people who are not interested in that - who understand that it is a bad idea for their position to be public.
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Post by yggdrasil on May 13, 2018 13:25:18 GMT
Well number 2 is exactly down to the Government as they got rid of a large number of experienced negotiators and got people like Liam Fox and David Davies involved and both are fairly incompetent. Brexit will and should happen, the idea that Europe who would have the stronger bargaining position once the result was decided would just allow us a pick 'n' mix deal was naive thinking in the extreme though and let's be honest, they haven't got a fucking clue what they will do about the Irish border deal as she can't upset the party she bribed to keep her as Prime Minister. May, and one does have to feel a bit sorry for her, has become a dead duck as a leader and the warring factions in her own Cabinet undermine any attempt to achieve an upper hand in negotiations with johnny foreigner.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on May 13, 2018 20:11:13 GMT
So, that crap song from Israel was the "winner"??
May The Lord have mercy on all of us.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:17:27 GMT
LOL Winner is accused of cultural appropriation. Independent
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:22:48 GMT
LOL Winner is accused of cultural appropriation. IndependentWinner is a fat,ugly talentless Israeli. And what the fuck are the Israeli's doing in Eurovision anyway
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 20:51:41 GMT
Chinese broadcaster barred from showing Eurovision as they censored too much content including gay symbols during Irish song. Independent
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 0:06:55 GMT
SuRie was singing her song Storm when a man wearing a rucksack ran onto the stage, grabbed her microphone, and appeared to say: "Nazis of the UK media, we demand freedom."Yeah, that makes sense. He looked distinctly foreign. Some kind of muslim migrant, no doubt. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44097050 [/url] [/ul]
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Post by Harold of Whoa on May 14, 2018 1:08:51 GMT
SuRie was singing her song Storm when a man wearing a rucksack ran onto the stage, grabbed her microphone, and appeared to say: "Nazis of the UK media, we demand freedom."Yeah, that makes sense. He looked distinctly foreign. Some kind of muslim migrant, no doubt. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44097050 [/a] [/ul][/quote]I think that's wolfesth.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2018 13:00:31 GMT
[/a] [/ul][/quote]I think that's wolfesth.[/quote] Since that's me in my avatar photo it appears you don't "think" much at all
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Post by Harold of Whoa on May 15, 2018 0:01:22 GMT
Since that's me in my avatar photo it appears you don't "think" much at all This is why no one likes you.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 6:52:16 GMT
Since that's me in my avatar photo it appears you don't "think" much at all This is why no one likes you. Indeed, being liked by the majority of ugly far right fucking losers that populate this board is a top priority for me. Not. When people on this board began to like you suicide becomes a viable option.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on May 15, 2018 7:53:41 GMT
This is why no one likes you. Indeed, being liked by the majority of ugly far right fucking losers that populate this board is a top priority for me. Not. When people on this board began to like you suicide becomes a viable option. I really like you.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on May 15, 2018 17:56:39 GMT
Indeed, being liked by the majority of ugly far right fucking losers that populate this board is a top priority for me. Not. When people on this board began to like you suicide becomes a viable option.I really like you. Based on what he said, I think a lot of people on this board are suddenly going to start liking him. lol
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 19:14:19 GMT
Indeed, being liked by the majority of ugly far right fucking losers that populate this board is a top priority for me. Not. When people on this board began to like you suicide becomes a viable option. I really like you. I see what you did there. Of course trying to debate politics is about the validity of your arguments not a fucking popularity contest. These boards are often far right echo chambers for the socially challenged to vent their spleens. Who in their right mind would want to be liked by such people?
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