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Post by yggdrasil on Jun 23, 2022 11:08:46 GMT
That record low, though is still 81% which is staggeringly high to my mind. (at the beginning of the 1970's it was nearly 100%) Why is the US so religious? For example, in the UK only 27% believe in God.
Two similar countries, supposedly linked in so many things, what makes one so religious and one so "not".?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 23, 2022 11:59:20 GMT
A lot of Scots and Irish descent; living in distant communities.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Jun 23, 2022 20:26:24 GMT
Churches played a larger role in the social lives of Americans. Keep in mind, many people were isolated, and they didn't have village taverns and the like. And since a lot of them were teetotalers....
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Post by Hnefahogg on Jul 8, 2022 10:48:37 GMT
Well, the response from American evangelicals is sometimes that Christians fled persecution from their godless homeland in Europe to go and build America as a Christian nation.
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Post by bomtombadil on Jul 8, 2022 12:36:44 GMT
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Jul 9, 2022 8:39:42 GMT
Well, the response from American evangelicals is sometimes that Christians fled persecution from their godless homeland in Europe to go and build America as a Christian nation. Then they came over here and executed witches and other Christians as heretics. 99% of European Christians came here for the economic opportunities, not religion.
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Post by yggdrasil on Jul 9, 2022 13:10:17 GMT
Well, the response from American evangelicals is sometimes that Christians fled persecution from their godless homeland in Europe to go and build America as a Christian nation. Then they came over here and executed witches and other Christians as heretics. 99% of European Christians came here for the economic opportunities, not religion. Persecution is fine as long as you are the ones doing it.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Jul 9, 2022 13:19:34 GMT
Then they came over here and executed witches and other Christians as heretics. 99% of European Christians came here for the economic opportunities, not religion. Persecution is fine as long as you are the ones doing it. They burn them for their own good, you know.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Jul 31, 2022 9:58:56 GMT
Consumerism and materialism are more fun to worship than Gods.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Aug 1, 2022 13:08:12 GMT
The number is actually lower, but unless you were in very liberal setting, no one dared say they’re atheist in public. That’s the most step down from decency in the average American can be. Since the 70s, the people who admit to it has grown. It’s probably much lower than you’re lead to believe by poll numbers.
And I would add of the 73% of Brits who say they don’t believe in God, for most it’s probably not hardcore, materialist atheism.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Aug 1, 2022 13:11:45 GMT
Consumerism and materialism are more fun to worship than Gods. And you are daily communicant, like everybody else. Sometimes you’re the sacrifice too.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Aug 1, 2022 14:28:02 GMT
This dovetails.
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Post by bomtombadil on Aug 1, 2022 22:41:53 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Aug 2, 2022 8:24:19 GMT
The number is actually lower, but unless you were in very liberal setting, no one dared say they’re atheist in public. That’s the most step down from decency in the average American can be. Since the 70s, the people who admit to it has grown. It’s probably much lower than you’re lead to believe by poll numbers. And I would add of the 73% of Brits who say they don’t believe in God, for most it’s probably not hardcore, materialist atheism. What exactly do you mean by "materialist atheism"? To me, a belief in a "God" is purely a binary question. Think that's how pretty much all Brits see it. It really isn't a thing here as it is in the US. Politicians can be atheist for example without it going against them at the polls.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Aug 3, 2022 0:45:41 GMT
The number is actually lower, but unless you were in very liberal setting, no one dared say they’re atheist in public. That’s the most step down from decency in the average American can be. Since the 70s, the people who admit to it has grown. It’s probably much lower than you’re lead to believe by poll numbers. And I would add of the 73% of Brits who say they don’t believe in God, for most it’s probably not hardcore, materialist atheism. What exactly do you mean by "materialist atheism"? To me, a belief in a "God" is purely a binary question. Think that's how pretty much all Brits see it. It really isn't a thing here as it is in the US. Politicians can be atheist for example without it going against them at the polls. How many of these Brit atheist were formally baptized just as a family tradition? Or get married in a church and have their funeral in one? And of the Brits whom you call atheist, are they “spiritual” kind or hardcore determinists. Then what are the possibilities that a huge national or world event could trigger a popular return to the comforts of a religious faith? Actual atheism is a rational process like religion itself is supposed to be. I doubt most people put that thought into it especially the Brits, because unlike Americans, you’re not forced by ad hoc social pressure to think about it. Like I said above, Americans as a whole are far less religious than you think. But we have a very loud and powerful White Evangelical church that’s more about social control than religion. The fact that the UK has a State Church, however toothless it is now, has as much to do with the lack of religiosity as the citizens just deciding they don’t believe in God.
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