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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 15:40:56 GMT
It is the hate against women that gets me. That's what it is if you only see one side of the argument. What is the other side?
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Post by mowlick on Jun 25, 2022 15:41:07 GMT
It is the hate against women that gets me. That's what it is if you only see one side of the argument. That bottle of champagne. Jill wasn't saving it in the hope that Bill Clinton would pop over and share it with her was she?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 25, 2022 16:00:10 GMT
That's what it is if you only see one side of the argument. What is the other side? The one which is not yours.
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Post by yggdrasil on Jun 25, 2022 16:29:41 GMT
The one which is not yours. The only other side to the argument is one that doesn't give autonomy to a woman over her own body. Call it hatred of women or Muslim style repression and obsequiousness to men if you like but it amounts to pretty much the same thing.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 25, 2022 16:43:27 GMT
The one which is not yours. The only other side to the argument is one that doesn't give autonomy to a woman over her own body. Call it hatred of women or Muslim style repression and obsequiousness to men if you like but it amounts to pretty much the same thing. I didn't call it hatred of women and I think that's a bit of a stretch. Control, sure, but not hatred. However, that's secondary, i.e. a result of the primary motivator for the anti-abortionists which I believe is one of keeping life rather than controlling or hating women.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 17:00:20 GMT
The only other side to the argument is one that doesn't give autonomy to a woman over her own body. Call it hatred of women or Muslim style repression and obsequiousness to men if you like but it amounts to pretty much the same thing. I didn't call it hatred of women and I think that's a bit of a stretch. Control, sure, but not hatred. However, that's secondary, i.e. a result of the primary motivator for the anti-abortionists which I believe is one of keeping life rather than controlling or hating women. The Death Cult, which is the Refuglican Party, now cares about lives? That was a good one, Monkeys.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jun 25, 2022 17:15:30 GMT
Never liked it, weird how one type of fizzy wine becomes so associated with excess and celebration. Also weird how one type of flat beer can become associated with failure and misery. Which flat beer?
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Post by yggdrasil on Jun 25, 2022 19:12:37 GMT
The only other side to the argument is one that doesn't give autonomy to a woman over her own body. Call it hatred of women or Muslim style repression and obsequiousness to men if you like but it amounts to pretty much the same thing. I didn't call it hatred of women and I think that's a bit of a stretch. Control, sure, but not hatred. However, that's secondary, i.e. a result of the primary motivator for the anti-abortionists which I believe is one of keeping life rather than controlling or hating women. Don't accept that, maybe for some true zealots, but most just play lip service to religion to get what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2022 19:16:51 GMT
I didn't call it hatred of women and I think that's a bit of a stretch. Control, sure, but not hatred. However, that's secondary, i.e. a result of the primary motivator for the anti-abortionists which I believe is one of keeping life rather than controlling or hating women. Don't accept that, maybe for some true zealots, but most just play lip service to religion to get what they want. And women get the receipt.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 26, 2022 8:07:45 GMT
I didn't call it hatred of women and I think that's a bit of a stretch. Control, sure, but not hatred. However, that's secondary, i.e. a result of the primary motivator for the anti-abortionists which I believe is one of keeping life rather than controlling or hating women. Don't accept that, maybe for some true zealots, but most just play lip service to religion to get what they want. And what is "what they want" in your view?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 26, 2022 8:08:33 GMT
Also weird how one type of flat beer can become associated with failure and misery. Which flat beer? Ale. Piss-water stuff generally made directly from the river. That's why they all look funny.
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Post by yggdrasil on Jun 26, 2022 10:38:33 GMT
Don't accept that, maybe for some true zealots, but most just play lip service to religion to get what they want. And what is "what they want" in your view? Further gun ownership relaxation and anything to "de liberalise" laws on reproduction, sex and anything they disagree with.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 26, 2022 10:47:14 GMT
And what is "what they want" in your view? Further gun ownership relaxation and anything to "de liberalise" laws on reproduction, sex and anything they disagree with. Wow, you expanded that quickly.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jun 26, 2022 17:05:17 GMT
Which flat beer? Ale. Piss-water stuff generally made directly from the river. That's why they all look funny. Have you ever tried an IPA (India Pale Ale)?
They're pretty good. Not flat at all.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jun 26, 2022 20:02:09 GMT
Ale. Piss-water stuff generally made directly from the river. That's why they all look funny. Have you ever tried an IPA (India Pale Ale)?
They're pretty good. Not flat at all.
Yes, its okay cold.
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