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Post by Ice Cold In Alex on Jul 22, 2022 12:47:39 GMT
What do you think, annulment or divorce?
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Post by stammerhead on Jul 22, 2022 20:43:41 GMT
I'd say divorce. If that bit from Leviticus was so important it should have been spotted and acted upon before the marriage had taken place. Mind you, what the feck do I know?
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jul 23, 2022 4:09:27 GMT
What I think is hilarious that an entire church and an Anglican/Episcopalian dogma came about because King Henry wanted a divorce and the Vatican wouldn't go for it.
So essentially the Church of England, the Anglicans, the Episcopalians in the U.S. are all Catholic, not Protestant.
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Post by Ice Cold In Alex on Jul 23, 2022 7:25:14 GMT
Well at least he liberated us from Rome, even if it was for selfish reasons. Anne must have been a dish.
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Post by stammerhead on Jul 23, 2022 10:16:09 GMT
Well at least he liberated us from Rome, even if it was for selfish reasons. Anne must have been a dish. Although not dishy enough to survive after failing to provide Henry with a son which is really what he really needed. From what I can recall the crown would have ended up in the hands of the Hapsburgs and England would have been part of the Holy Roman Empire. Catherine of Aragon was the aunt of Emperor Charles V and, to make things more complicated, Charles had the Pope under lock and key when much of this was going on. And then there’s the small matter of War of the Roses Part 2 breaking out if there wasn’t a legitimate king in waiting.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Jul 26, 2022 5:39:38 GMT
The King of Spain had more influence with the Pope than Henry and his ego couldn’t handle it. Too bad he didn’t divorce Anne Boleyn.
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Post by PaulsLaugh Thought Mountie on Jul 26, 2022 5:51:44 GMT
Well at least he liberated us from Rome, even if it was for selfish reasons. Anne must have been a dish. Although not dishy enough to survive after failing to provide Henry with a son which is really what he really needed. From what I can recall the crown would have ended up in the hands of the Hapsburgs and England would have been part of the Holy Roman Empire. Catherine of Aragon was the aunt of Emperor Charles V and, to make things more complicated, Charles had the Pope under lock and key when much of this was going on. And then there’s the small matter of War of the Roses Part 2 breaking out if there wasn’t a legitimate king in waiting. So at the time, he thought Mary would not succeed him or he didn’t trust finding her his handpicked husband before divorcing in hopes of a male heir?
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Post by stammerhead on Jul 26, 2022 12:26:47 GMT
Although not dishy enough to survive after failing to provide Henry with a son which is really what he really needed. From what I can recall the crown would have ended up in the hands of the Hapsburgs and England would have been part of the Holy Roman Empire. Catherine of Aragon was the aunt of Emperor Charles V and, to make things more complicated, Charles had the Pope under lock and key when much of this was going on. And then there’s the small matter of War of the Roses Part 2 breaking out if there wasn’t a legitimate king in waiting. So at the time, he thought Mary would not succeed him or he didn’t trust finding her his handpicked husband before divorcing in hopes of a male heir? Women were not thought sufficiently capable of ruling a nation back then. But the best laid plans often go astray and Edward became King aged 9 then died aged 15 then, after an attempt at making Jane Grey Queen (that lasted 9 days), Mary finally got the throne.
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