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Post by PaulsLaugh (God/Almighty) on Oct 30, 2022 4:58:32 GMT
For a spoiled child who only wants the gasoline powered toy, I guess it is the end of the world. However, electric cars go from point A to point B in the same way gasoline powered ones do. Unless you need a redneck religious experience, you'll be just fine with the EVs. But it is change and changing one's attitude is a very hard thing to do. It's self-dehumanizing. So, here's hoping you will have a brighter future someday in the future.
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Post by ayatollah on Oct 30, 2022 7:09:03 GMT
For a spoiled child who only wants the gasoline powered toy, I guess it is the end of the world. However, electric cars go from point A to point B in the same way gasoline powered ones do. Unless you need a redneck religious experience, you'll be just fine with the EVs. But it is change and changing one's attitude is a very hard thing to do. It's self-dehumanizing. So, here's hoping you will have a brighter future someday in the future. Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Oct 30, 2022 8:15:30 GMT
For a spoiled child who only wants the gasoline powered toy, I guess it is the end of the world. However, electric cars go from point A to point B in the same way gasoline powered ones do. Unless you need a redneck religious experience, you'll be just fine with the EVs. But it is change and changing one's attitude is a very hard thing to do. It's self-dehumanizing. So, here's hoping you will have a brighter future someday in the future. Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something.
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Post by PaulsLaugh (God/Almighty) on Oct 30, 2022 9:39:40 GMT
For a spoiled child who only wants the gasoline powered toy, I guess it is the end of the world. However, electric cars go from point A to point B in the same way gasoline powered ones do. Unless you need a redneck religious experience, you'll be just fine with the EVs. But it is change and changing one's attitude is a very hard thing to do. It's self-dehumanizing. So, here's hoping you will have a brighter future someday in the future. Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. Is ten years enough? I don't think this will affect larger vehicles that need more horsepower just yet. We got screwed up with suburb office centers and business parks. They didn't work out like GM's Worlds Fair Futurama said it would. Few people who work in them actually live near them, so there is a constant travel with folks living near complex A commuting across town to work in complex Z and vice versa. We can either shorten the distances people drive to work or make cleaner cars.
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Post by PaulsLaugh (God/Almighty) on Oct 30, 2022 9:43:12 GMT
Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. It's like iPhone. Once enough good old ones are traded for the new ones, the older models become cheaper. In ten years, an EV shouldn't be any more expensive than any other used car. Lower income folks could get some govt rebate assistance toward purchasing a new one too. Maybe get something back on the taxes. Making a new type of car that to be phased in over times is a great for jobs.
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Post by PaulsLaugh (God/Almighty) on Oct 30, 2022 9:45:58 GMT
Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. He understood that his workers should afford to buy his cars, that way he got some of their wages back, though in a fair trade.
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Post by yggdrasil on Oct 30, 2022 12:17:09 GMT
When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. He understood that his workers should afford to buy his cars, that way he got some of their wages back, though in a fair trade. Hitler did great things with VW.
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Post by PaulsLaugh (God/Almighty) on Oct 30, 2022 12:24:03 GMT
He understood that his workers should afford to buy his cars, that way he got some of their wages back, though in a fair trade. Hitler did great things with VW. So long as no slave labor was used to build them, then even evil people can have good ideas. VW is bigger than Hitler.
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Post by yggdrasil on Oct 30, 2022 12:24:16 GMT
Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. probably about a 5k hike for electric at the moment although there are also plenty of hybrids too which are same price as fully petrol motors. As you say, it's just supply and demand, the prices will fall as bans are implemented and infra structure and battery charging technology progresses. None of that will convince the barmy brigade who see conspiracies everywhere though, you just have to accept there are some odd folk in the world.
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Post by yggdrasil on Oct 30, 2022 12:26:19 GMT
Hitler did great things with VW. So long as no slave labor was used to build them, then even evil people can have good ideas. VW is bigger than Hitler. He was an effective chancellor, even though a lot of his plans (road building etc) had an eye to the future.Smart uniforms too.
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Post by ayatollah on Oct 30, 2022 15:32:28 GMT
Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. Is ten years enough? I don't think this will affect larger vehicles that need more horsepower just yet. We got screwed up with suburb office centers and business parks. They didn't work out like GM's Worlds Fair Futurama said it would. Few people who work in them actually live near them, so there is a constant travel with folks living near complex A commuting across town to work in complex Z and vice versa. We can either shorten the distances people drive to work or make cleaner cars. When the technology is ready people will buy electric cars on their own. I'd buy one right now, but they're not economic.
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Post by ayatollah on Oct 30, 2022 15:37:14 GMT
Electric cars are far too expensive right now, and I don't think we should start implementing bans until we're positive they'll be affordable for nearly everyone. When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. Nobody had to pass a law to force people to buy a model T though. When you present people with a better option people will buy electric cars without being forced. We don't know what is going to happen in 10 or 15 years, what if the technology isn't good enough to replace gas cars? You guys won't agree to push back the date.
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Post by peachy on Oct 30, 2022 15:58:24 GMT
Don't you think a brand new car is a bad investment considering they depreciate in value so fast?
I heard that one that's at least three years old is a better investment.
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Post by peachy on Oct 30, 2022 15:59:42 GMT
For a spoiled child who only wants the gasoline powered toy, I guess it is the end of the world. However, electric cars go from point A to point B in the same way gasoline powered ones do. Unless you need a redneck religious experience, you'll be just fine with the EVs. But it is change and changing one's attitude is a very hard thing to do. It's self-dehumanizing. So, here's hoping you will have a brighter future someday in the future. Yeah, they're very popular in Communist China where the government can control when, where and how far they can drive. EVs are just another way the government can control people, dupe.
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Post by ayatollah on Oct 30, 2022 18:25:56 GMT
When people buy more of them as a result of the bans on the others, they'll become less expensive. Henry Ford, your hero of the gas engine, started selling his cars at $850. Two years later, they were selling for $400 and a few years after that, for $300. I saw this on a programme I had on yesterday afternoon. Great Inventions, or something. He understood that his workers should afford to buy his cars, that way he got some of their wages back, though in a fair trade. Yeah, but what's that got to do with this conversation?
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