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Post by pathfinder on Mar 12, 2023 1:26:32 GMT
When Johnson lied. Millions died.
All Nixon did was lie was trying to cover up a break in, Watergate,
he never ordered. And nobody died.
Johnson on the other hand lied us into Vietnam. And millions of people died.
Over the last 50-years. Nixon has been totally unfairly maligned by the democrats and their asslickers in the news media.
Also Johnson bankrupted Social Security by borrowing into the trust fund to pay for Vietnam. The fact checkers will try to say it was Congress. But Congress rubber-stamped all of Johnson's policies on Vietnam --- so it was Johnson.
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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 12, 2023 11:37:04 GMT
No expert, but I thought Nixon deliberately extended Vietnam when he knew it was a completely lost cause to prove to Russia and others that America wouldn't give in no matter how many died. Was all utterly stupid given that the US had completely lost by then.
Seemed that the soldiers were then vilified on returning home for losing.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 12, 2023 16:50:19 GMT
That does not make Nixon un-guilty. He did lie about invading Laos and Cambodia, so lives lost there and who knows, this could have help Pol Pot rise to power and he killed millions of his own people.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 12, 2023 16:52:42 GMT
No expert, but I thought Nixon deliberately extended Vietnam when he knew it was a completely lost cause to prove to Russia and others that America wouldn't give in no matter how many died. Was all utterly stupid given that the US had completely lost by then. Seemed that the soldiers were then vilified on returning home for losing. Yep. I think the analogy Path is going for is when Democrats lie, people die, when Republicans lie, it’s a Three Hour Tour of the US Capitol. |
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Post by blizzmanb on Mar 12, 2023 18:05:52 GMT
OK Boomer.
You sound like my Dad brah.
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Post by blacktothefuture on Mar 12, 2023 21:17:46 GMT
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Post by pathfinder on Mar 12, 2023 23:59:36 GMT
That does not make Nixon un-guilty. He did lie about invading Laos and Cambodia, so lives lost there and who knows, this could have help Pol Pot rise to power and he killed millions of his own people. News flash. Despite their declared neutrality Laos and Cambodia were not neutral. |
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Post by pathfinder on Mar 13, 2023 0:07:05 GMT
No expert, but I thought Nixon deliberately extended Vietnam when he knew it was a completely lost cause to prove to Russia and others that America wouldn't give in no matter how many died. Was all utterly stupid given that the US had completely lost by then. Seemed that the soldiers were then vilified on returning home for losing. Yep. I think the analogy Path is going for is when Democrats lie, people die, when Republicans lie, it’s a Three Hour Tour of the US Capitol. No. What I'm going for is when Nixon lied about Watergate --- no one died. When Johnson lied about the Bay of Tonkin incident ---- millions died.
But Nixon is forever maligned by you bastards. How clear do I have to make? Airhead. And you fight a war to win it. If not. Don't start it. Or get involved in it.
Democrats have a long history of getting us involved in wars they have no intention of wining. The latest is Ukraine.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Mar 13, 2023 1:01:28 GMT
That does not make Nixon un-guilty. He did lie about invading Laos and Cambodia, so lives lost there and who knows, this could have help Pol Pot rise to power and he killed millions of his own people. News flash. Despite their declared neutrality Laos and Cambodia were not neutral. But Nixon lied about it is the point. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 13, 2023 6:08:47 GMT
That does not make Nixon un-guilty. He did lie about invading Laos and Cambodia, so lives lost there and who knows, this could have help Pol Pot rise to power and he killed millions of his own people. Just like Biden administration lies to us now? |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Mar 13, 2023 12:28:46 GMT
When Johnson lied. Millions died.
All Nixon did was lie was trying to cover up a break in, Watergate,
he never ordered. And nobody died.
Johnson on the other hand lied us into Vietnam. And millions of people died.
Over the last 50-years. Nixon has been totally unfairly maligned by the democrats and their asslickers in the news media.
Also Johnson bankrupted Social Security by borrowing into the trust fund to pay for Vietnam. The fact checkers will try to say it was Congress. But Congress rubber-stamped all of Johnson's policies on Vietnam --- so it was Johnson.
You read the wrong history books. Johnson was conned by the hawks in the Pentagon. He knew nothing of foreign policy or the careful balancing act Kennedy was doing with the hawks who wanted a war, so when Kennedy died the Pentagon was able to scam Johnson. McNamara should have known better, and did but was too much a coward to leave Vietnam. Nixon could have left Vietnam as soon as he entered office but chose to drag it out for several more years, conducting more war crimes like bombing Laos. Nixon as US President tried to protect his staff who illegally broke into their political opponents offices. How corrupt should a President be till he has to be accountable? Just a little? A lot? You hypocrites like to blame Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden for the Iraq war crime when all they did was vote for the Bush/Cheney lies. |
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Mar 13, 2023 12:30:33 GMT
That does not make Nixon un-guilty. He did lie about invading Laos and Cambodia, so lives lost there and who knows, this could have help Pol Pot rise to power and he killed millions of his own people. News flash. Despite their declared neutrality Laos and Cambodia were not neutral. Again, your grasp of history is abysmal. |
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Mar 13, 2023 21:49:44 GMT
When Johnson lied. Millions died.
All Nixon did was lie was trying to cover up a break in, Watergate,
he never ordered. And nobody died.
Johnson on the other hand lied us into Vietnam. And millions of people died.
Over the last 50-years. Nixon has been totally unfairly maligned by the democrats and their asslickers in the news media.
Also Johnson bankrupted Social Security by borrowing into the trust fund to pay for Vietnam. The fact checkers will try to say it was Congress. But Congress rubber-stamped all of Johnson's policies on Vietnam --- so it was Johnson.
Richard Nixon caused the situation we now have with North Korea. By deliberately holding up peace talks and agreements because he wanted a war. www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/apnews.com/article/north-korea-missile-submarine-tensions-a08750c243ebeb6c0c444f9b18aa5ab3Watergate was just small potatoes compared to the larger issue of the Vietnam War and drafting college students into war against their will. You had better thank your lucky stars that there aren't any Liberals like this around anymore. They would have that idiot Maga movement crushed out of existence inside of 6 months. |
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Mar 13, 2023 22:13:00 GMT
No expert, but I thought Nixon deliberately extended Vietnam when he knew it was a completely lost cause to prove to Russia and others that America wouldn't give in no matter how many died. Was all utterly stupid given that the US had completely lost by then. Seemed that the soldiers were then vilified on returning home for losing. Just like Putin is deliberately extending the Ukraine War when he knows it's a lost cause to prove to America that Russia won't give in no matter how many Russian drafted troops die. |
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Post by pathfinder on Mar 13, 2023 23:25:27 GMT
News flash. Despite their declared neutrality Laos and Cambodia were not neutral. Again, your grasp of history is abysmal. They were not neutral. Laos and Cambodia was used by the Viet Cong as a base of operation to smuggle supplies down the Ho Chi Minh trail. It is you that should pick up and read a history book.
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