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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 20:58:34 GMT
I do not stream or get music digitally or however you young uns are doing it these days. I have a boom box on all three levels of the house for playing CDs when I am in certain rooms and have a CD walkman for bike rides. I’m approaching OAP status (a year and a bit to go) and nowadays get my tunes from YouTube via an app. I know the quality is nowhere near as good as physical media but I’m not really a hi-fi kinda guy. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Apr 10, 2023 11:15:30 GMT
I do not stream or get music digitally or however you young uns are doing it these days. I have a boom box on all three levels of the house for playing CDs when I am in certain rooms and have a CD walkman for bike rides. I’m approaching OAP status (a year and a bit to go) and nowadays get my tunes from YouTube via an app. I know the quality is nowhere near as good as physical media but I’m not really a hi-fi kinda guy. I'm around the same age and have gone more and more back to vinyl, YouTube is very low quality isn't it? about 128/160 kbps? I have a couple of hi def players and will only download 320 at the very least, although usually go for FLAC, even with the bigger file sizes as memory is so cheap. I only buy CD now where there is no vinyl issue. |
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Post by vodkie on Apr 10, 2023 13:23:58 GMT
4/25/23 edit I still have a portable CD player.  I only use Spotify for podcasts and to preview a song before buying a lossless offline download. I will buy offline downloads from Qobuz (because they offer CD quality audio) when I just want 1 song or if the album I want is digital only. other than That, I'm still buying CDs, Records And Tapes since tapes have made a comeback. I Don't Agree with buying anything digital - games, movies, Music, ETC. unless it's the only option A Physical copy comes with 1. A Disc 2. A Case 3. Artwork 4. A Label on the disc 5. A booklet 6. Shrinkwrap on the case 7. A Paper insert with the digital copy (Movies) 8. They have to be put into a box then shipped to a store to be sold And sometimes 9. A slipcover A Digital Copy, a file just have to be sent to server. A Physical Copy costs way more to produce. Why is a Super Mario game for the Nintendo Switch 60 dollars on Walmart's Shelf AND 60 dollars on the Nintendo eShop? So, if I want Gremlins 1 and 2 and The Goonies digitally on amazon, Gremlins 1 is $14.99, gremlins 2 is $12.99 and The Goonies is $9.99 YET The Triple feature Blu-Ray is only $12.99? $37.97 for Digital (14.99+12.99+9.99) or $12.99 for physical? Nope. I'm getting the physical. Why is P!nk's 2006 album "I'm not dead" $7.43 for the CD on amazon but the mp3 download is $9.99? Digital is clearly significantly cheaper to produce. It shouldn't cost as much or more. Or Better yet, Digital Should be more expensive to steer people away from buying it. Plus, I've had digital things taken away. I Bought The 4k version of Gremlins that came with digital 4k copy. When the disc started skipping because it had fingerprints on the recorded side, I stopped the disc and tried to watch my digital copy only to find out, it was removed from my library and only my original 1080p digital copy was available. Nickelodeon's show Salute Your Shorts had 2 volumes released digitally. I Bought them on iTunes back in the early 2010s only for them to take away part 2 of a 2 part episode. |
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Post by jackspicer on Apr 10, 2023 18:50:26 GMT
I’m approaching OAP status (a year and a bit to go) and nowadays get my tunes from YouTube via an app. I know the quality is nowhere near as good as physical media but I’m not really a hi-fi kinda guy. YouTube is very low quality isn't it? about 128/160 kbps? I have a couple of hi def players and will only download 320 at the very least, although usually go for FLAC I very much doubt you did a blind test between 160kbps and FLAC. You're listening with your eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 20:40:34 GMT
I’m approaching OAP status (a year and a bit to go) and nowadays get my tunes from YouTube via an app. I know the quality is nowhere near as good as physical media but I’m not really a hi-fi kinda guy. I'm around the same age and have gone more and more back to vinyl, YouTube is very low quality isn't it? about 128/160 kbps? I have a couple of hi def players and will only download 320 at the very least, although usually go for FLAC, even with the bigger file sizes as memory is so cheap. I only buy CD now where there is no vinyl issue. I'm officially cloth eared because I'm fine with 128. Of course if I was to listen to a physical media copy before listening to the digital copy on my phone I'll probably go back to buying all those records, tapes and CD again. |
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Post by ck100 on Apr 15, 2023 16:35:05 GMT
I still use CD's and a CD player. Physical media still has its place.
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Post by ellynmacgregor2024 on Apr 15, 2023 19:44:58 GMT
After struggling more and more with my computer (the one I'm presently typing on), I took it to a guy who fixes those babies for a living, and after copying everything that was on my hard drive, he installed a new one that included a CD drive. I know the newer laptops don't include CD player-recorders...which is one of the main reasons why I'm holding on to this 'puter as long as possible. As a writer specializing in music-, movie-, and stage-related subjects, I need that functioning CD in my work...and also, it's fun!
I also make frequent use of YouTube, but I very much like having the ability to rip individual tracks to my computer (in order to make my own programs/song lists)...and by using my built-in CD player, I can avoid ads entirely without having to pay for that privilege. :)
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Post by Hnefahogg on Apr 16, 2023 14:40:56 GMT
After struggling more and more with my computer (the one I'm presently typing on), I took it to a guy who fixes those babies for a living, and after copying everything that was on my hard drive, he installed a new one that included a CD drive. I know the newer laptops don't include CD player-recorders...which is one of the main reasons why I'm holding on to this 'puter as long as possible. As a writer specializing in music-, movie-, and stage-related subjects, I need that functioning CD in my work...and also, it's fun! I also make frequent use of YouTube, but I very much like having the ability to rip individual tracks to my computer (in order to make my own programs/song lists)...and by using my built-in CD player, I can avoid ads entirely without having to pay for that privilege. :) I have an external burner that burns CD/DVD/Blu-rays that I got for watching physical Blu-ray media. I haven't burned a disc since like 2011 probably. |
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Post by Jan El Señor on Apr 19, 2023 15:35:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 22:11:40 GMT
So pissed my new car back in 2019...AND no other new cars came with them, even then 😡
But OMG LP'S!!!!!!!😡
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Post by slowcomingwarbird on Apr 20, 2023 23:39:31 GMT
I recently watched an old TV episode about piracy. They said that in the old days before there were CD burners, no one considered cassette recording piracy because the quality deteriorated compared to the original. That didn't make much sense considering that albums were sold on tape as well. Actually it was considered piracy by Bill Gates who brought up the concerns that computer software distributed on cassette tape could be copied using a dual cassette deck in an ordinary stereo system. As long as it was a 1st generation copy there was no perceivable deterioration at least no deterioration that the computer could detect. It is only when you get into 3rd or 4th generation copies that sound quality became a problem as hiss or noise was introduced into the recording as a byproduct of the amplification of amplifier compatibility electrical noise. Something that was apparently forgotten over the years is that if you use a cheaper Type A amplifier you have to pair that up with a Type B amplifier or else you get sound distortion and electrical noise. That problem can be avoided with the more expensive Type C amplifier used with other Type C amplifiers. The copyright laws introduced in 1978 didn't really have any "teeth" to speak of back then. The emphasis was on spreading disinformation to discourage piracy because before 1985 the copyright laws were considered to be unenforceable. |
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Post by ellynmacgregor2024 on Apr 22, 2023 20:34:53 GMT
I recently watched an old TV episode about piracy. They said that in the old days before there were CD burners, no one considered cassette recording piracy because the quality deteriorated compared to the original. That didn't make much sense considering that albums were sold on tape as well. Actually it was considered piracy by Bill Gates who brought up the concerns that computer software distributed on cassette tape could be copied using a dual cassette deck in an ordinary stereo system. As long as it was a 1st generation copy there was no perceivable deterioration at least no deterioration that the computer could detect. It is only when you get into 3rd or 4th generation copies that sound quality became a problem as hiss or noise was introduced into the recording as a byproduct of the amplification of amplifier compatibility electrical noise. Something that was apparently forgotten over the years is that if you use a cheaper Type A amplifier you have to pair that up with a Type B amplifier or else you get sound distortion and electrical noise. That problem can be avoided with the more expensive Type C amplifier used with other Type C amplifiers. The copyright laws introduced in 1978 didn't really have any "teeth" to speak of back then. The emphasis was on spreading disinformation to discourage piracy because before 1985 the copyright laws were considered to be unenforceable. I used to feel guilty about ripping from a CD, even just a handful of tunes--and I felt even worse about burning. But when I worked at a library in the Reference and A/V departments, the head of A/V (a degreed librarian) assured me that even if I ripped an entire CD, as long as it was for my own private purposes (and I wasn't intending to sell it), it was considered "fair use," so I needn't worry about it. So I didn't, and I don't. ![[grin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/CBubFSUbXfyoLMZUjeBb.gif) And now, even when I do burn a CD, it's almost never one whole album (and also never from anything more recent than about 2000*), but rather a selection from several different albums...the disc equivalent of a mix tape. Burning my own collections of tunes onto a CD can be fun, but most of the time, I just collect songs internally by compiling song lists in my computer's music library. It's a kind of programming that I really love to do! *In its original release date. If it was recorded in another media prior to that, and the 2000+ date is just when it was released in the CD format, I consider it fair game. |
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Post by Hnefahogg on Apr 23, 2023 18:27:04 GMT
I recently watched an old TV episode about piracy. They said that in the old days before there were CD burners, no one considered cassette recording piracy because the quality deteriorated compared to the original. That didn't make much sense considering that albums were sold on tape as well. Actually it was considered piracy by Bill Gates who brought up the concerns that computer software distributed on cassette tape could be copied using a dual cassette deck in an ordinary stereo system. As long as it was a 1st generation copy there was no perceivable deterioration at least no deterioration that the computer could detect. It is only when you get into 3rd or 4th generation copies that sound quality became a problem as hiss or noise was introduced into the recording as a byproduct of the amplification of amplifier compatibility electrical noise. Something that was apparently forgotten over the years is that if you use a cheaper Type A amplifier you have to pair that up with a Type B amplifier or else you get sound distortion and electrical noise. That problem can be avoided with the more expensive Type C amplifier used with other Type C amplifiers. The copyright laws introduced in 1978 didn't really have any "teeth" to speak of back then. The emphasis was on spreading disinformation to discourage piracy because before 1985 the copyright laws were considered to be unenforceable. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Apr 24, 2023 8:50:37 GMT
YouTube is very low quality isn't it? about 128/160 kbps? I have a couple of hi def players and will only download 320 at the very least, although usually go for FLAC I very much doubt you did a blind test between 160kbps and FLAC. You're listening with your eyes. I use an Astell & Kern Hi res player and you most certainly can tell the difference. You would be right if you were talking 160 and 320, but 160 and 24 bit FLAC? You certainly can. |
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Post by jackspicer on Apr 24, 2023 19:19:30 GMT
I very much doubt you did a blind test between 160kbps and FLAC. You're listening with your eyes. I use an Astell & Kern Hi res player and you most certainly can tell the difference. You would be right if you were talking 160 and 320, but 160 and 24 bit FLAC? You certainly can. If you did not do a blind test, then your results are worthless. Did you do a blind test? |
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