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Post by yggdrasil on Mar 18, 2023 16:36:39 GMT
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Post by stammerhead on Mar 18, 2023 17:25:52 GMT
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Mar 18, 2023 17:48:20 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting.
People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power.
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Post by blacktothefuture on Mar 18, 2023 18:07:40 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting. People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power. Not arresting Trump 5 years ago has already set a dangerous precedent.      |
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Post by ayatollah on Mar 18, 2023 19:40:27 GMT
For paying hush money to a woman he fucked.
In corporate America it's standard practice to settle sexual harassment cases with 'non-disclosure agreements". If I'm not mistaken Bill Clinton paid a lady or two some money to keep quite. Suddenly this is illegal?
We all know what's happening, the regime is sending it's internal opponents to prison. Biden is treating Trump like Putin treats Navalny.
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Post by bartlesby on Mar 18, 2023 23:01:41 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting. People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power. The precedent that even the rich and powerful can be held to account under the law? How horrible. ![[straightface]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/X0xvEuKqIvpjcwikdJVq.gif) Do you crypto-fascist goobers think everybody has forgotten that Trump ran on "LOCK HER UP!" and promised to use his power as president to have Hillary investigated? An empty promise like so many others, sure, but I don't recall your camp giving a shit about "abuse of power" then. I guess it's selective concern. Please do take to the streets over it. The last time you took to the streets, it worked out so well for you. |
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Post by ayatollah on Mar 18, 2023 23:07:10 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting. People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power. The precedent that even the rich and powerful can be held to account under the law? How horrible. Do you crypto-fascist goobers think everybody has forgotten that Trump ran on "LOCK HER UP!" and promised to use his power as presidency to have Hillary investigated? An empty promise like so many others, sure, but I don't recall your camp giving a shit about "abuse of power" then. Please do take to the streets over it. The last time you took the streets, it worked out so well for you. He relented on prosecuting Clinton hoping that by being nice you'd reciprocate and we could tone down the stupidity and pointless partisanship. Most of what so called progressives believe is just "the opposite of whatever those guys believe". |
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Post by bartlesby on Mar 18, 2023 23:18:02 GMT
The precedent that even the rich and powerful can be held to account under the law? How horrible. Do you crypto-fascist goobers think everybody has forgotten that Trump ran on "LOCK HER UP!" and promised to use his power as presidency to have Hillary investigated? An empty promise like so many others, sure, but I don't recall your camp giving a shit about "abuse of power" then. Please do take to the streets over it. The last time you took the streets, it worked out so well for you. He relented on prosecuting Clinton hoping that by being nice you'd reciprocate and we could tone down the stupidity and pointless partisanship. Most of what so called progressives believe is just "the opposite of whatever those guys believe". Yeah, sure he did. Donald Trump, well-known master of olive branch diplomacy, wanted the stupidity and partisanship toned down despite winning because of it. Progressives don't fit that description at all. Progressives want social equity, corporations and the rich to pay far more taxes, more power for labor, free college and healthcare, and a comprehensive social safety net for the working class. That's not simply taking the opposite position of whatever conservatives and reactionaries want. |
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Post by pathfinder on Mar 18, 2023 23:18:13 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting. People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power. Do you seriously think they thought about it or give a shit about the precedent they're setting?
What they do now. Later on, will come back to bite them on the ass.
Look at the Clarence Thomas hearings and how it came back to bite them on the ass. And Bill Clinton had to get his two-cents in on it. And it came back to bite him on the ass.
I seem to be the only one that remembers Bill Clinton going in front of the League of Women voter and saying the following: "I am sick and tired of men taking advantage of women in the work place. If I get elected to the office of the Presidency. By GOD I'm gonna do something about it." Bill Clinton. And low and behold. He was the guy
doing it. And he got exposed. Wonder what that prosecutor has been up to? How many bitches has he had to pay off.
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Post by ayatollah on Mar 18, 2023 23:56:59 GMT
He relented on prosecuting Clinton hoping that by being nice you'd reciprocate and we could tone down the stupidity and pointless partisanship. Most of what so called progressives believe is just "the opposite of whatever those guys believe". Yeah, sure he did. Donald Trump, well-known master of olive branch diplomacy, wanted the stupidity and partisanship toned down despite winning because of it. Yes, because had he wanted more factionalized politics he'd have started arresting opponents. If "conservatives" like me (which really means anyone who isn't 100% in lockstep with them) start talking about a safety net you guys get quiet, sometimes you start arguing with me. In my day I remember you guys raging against aggressive militarism, you won over many so-called conservatives and now they are opposed to foreign involvement, and you guys have flipped! Really, you just want to oppose us. |
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Post by bartlesby on Mar 19, 2023 0:27:00 GMT
Yeah, sure he did. Donald Trump, well-known master of olive branch diplomacy, wanted the stupidity and partisanship toned down despite winning because of it. Yes, because had he wanted more factionalized politics he'd have started arresting opponents. If "conservatives" like me (which really means anyone who isn't 100% in lockstep with them) start talking about a safety net you guys get quiet, sometimes you start arguing with me. In my day I remember you guys raging against aggressive militarism, you won over many so-called conservatives and now they are opposed to foreign involvement, and you guys have flipped! Really, you just want to oppose us. He couldn't arrest opponents. He didn't have the power to do it. Still, he promised it and people voted for him. It clearly was not a deal breaker for them. There are some areas where progressives can find common ground with right-wing populists, sure. In your case, for example, you like the ideas of a social safety net and no foreign involvement but you also want a white ethno-state. The devil is in the little details like that. Progressives didn't flip on Ukraine. It was a war of imperialistic aggressive militarism. Why would they be opposed to aiding Ukraine? |
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Post by ayatollah on Mar 19, 2023 0:36:07 GMT
Yes, because had he wanted more factionalized politics he'd have started arresting opponents. If "conservatives" like me (which really means anyone who isn't 100% in lockstep with them) start talking about a safety net you guys get quiet, sometimes you start arguing with me. In my day I remember you guys raging against aggressive militarism, you won over many so-called conservatives and now they are opposed to foreign involvement, and you guys have flipped! Really, you just want to oppose us. He couldn't arrest opponents. He didn't have the power to do it. Still, he promised it and people voted for him. It clearly was not a deal breaker for them. There are some areas where progressives can find common ground with right-wing populists, sure. In your case, for example, you like the ideas of a social safety net and no foreign involvement but you also want a white ethno-state. A white ethnostate in North America is a pipe dream, not happening. I want you to stop demonizing whites. Yes, it is a war of imperialism, but not the way you're making it seem, it's not just Russian imperialism, the US wants Ukraine in it's domination. The chess game went on at least since 2004 and after Trump's defeat Russia realized there was nothing left but war. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 19, 2023 1:42:27 GMT
Paywall. Please copy and paste. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 19, 2023 1:43:34 GMT
Arresting the former president is only going to backfire on Democrats and strengthen Trump. Think of the precedent they're setting. People should take to the streets to protest this blatant abuse of power. He was impeached twice and ended up with no conviction. Dems are getting desperate. They are opening a can of worms regarding themselves too. |
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Mar 19, 2023 1:44:46 GMT
For paying hush money to a woman he fucked. In corporate America it's standard practice to settle sexual harassment cases with 'non-disclosure agreements". If I'm not mistaken Bill Clinton paid a lady or two some money to keep quite. Suddenly this is illegal? We all know what's happening, the regime is sending it's internal opponents to prison. Biden is treating Trump like Putin treats Navalny. Bill Cosby was released due to prior civil payouts. That this wasn't brought up prior to his conviction, means he had crap lawyers. |
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