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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 4:18:11 GMT
Then how is using evidence blind faith? Using evidence isn't blind faith. How you use the evidence can based on ideology and what you think is evidence might not be. Did you have a point? “Our ideology doesn't reflect reality. Reality is wrong" If you have evidence for reality, how is it necessarily wrong? That conservatism has become dangerously anti-democratic, at least in the USA, is not my ideology speaking, it’s the reality based on the evidence.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 4:25:50 GMT
What is the ideology of science? For science to shill for whoever is funding them. First off, this generalization is as broad as the planet. Second, science has to pay for itself using funds just like everyone else including you. You think it’s all very simple and you can sum three thousand year tradition of untold hours of rigorous study, research, and personal sacrifice, means nothing to you. Because you’re a fundamentally dishonest and dull person, you think everyone else is too.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 4:27:09 GMT
Using evidence isn't blind faith. How you use the evidence can based on ideology and what you think is evidence might not be. Did you have a point? “Our ideology doesn't reflect reality. Reality is wrong" If you have evidence for reality, how is it necessarily wrong? That conservatism has become dangerously anti-democratic, at least in the USA, is not my ideology speaking, it’s the reality based on the evidence. The interpretation of evidence can be wrong and usually is when ideology is involved. Which is why we have Creationists, Flat Earthers, Intersectional Feminists and Communists still. All of these things objectively and demonstrably fail. Yet people still use evidence to try to prove them, even though they are not interpreting the evidence correctly. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. The data doesn't support that, so rather than revise your belief you either ignore or misinterpret the data. And when that fails you will simply flat out deny it.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 4:33:34 GMT
“Our ideology doesn't reflect reality. Reality is wrong" If you have evidence for reality, how is it necessarily wrong? That conservatism has become dangerously anti-democratic, at least in the USA, is not my ideology speaking, it’s the reality based on the evidence. The interpretation of evidence can be wrong and usually is when ideology is involved. Which is why we have Creationists, Flat Earthers, Intersectional Feminists and Communists still. All of these things objectively and demonstrably fail. Yet people still use evidence to try to prove them, even though they are not interpreting the evidence correctly. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. The data doesn't support that, so rather than revise your belief you either ignore or misinterpret the data. And when that fails you will simply flat out deny it. It’s quite easy to use evidence to disprove such science morons too. What Christians have used to convince people they are absolutely right is spiritual terrorism. In the past, they used physical terrorism. Look at this sentence. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. If this is true, then you should be able to objectively prove this is what I believe. The evidence for or against to prove your hypothesis is at your fingertips. Go.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 7:50:17 GMT
The interpretation of evidence can be wrong and usually is when ideology is involved. Which is why we have Creationists, Flat Earthers, Intersectional Feminists and Communists still. All of these things objectively and demonstrably fail. Yet people still use evidence to try to prove them, even though they are not interpreting the evidence correctly. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. The data doesn't support that, so rather than revise your belief you either ignore or misinterpret the data. And when that fails you will simply flat out deny it. It’s quite easy to use evidence to disprove such science morons too. What Christians have used to convince people they are absolutely right is spiritual terrorism. In the past, they used physical terrorism. Look at this sentence. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. If this is true, then you should be able to objectively prove this is what I believe. The evidence for or against to prove your hypothesis is at your fingertips. Go. I cannot objectively prove that is true. You are asking the impossible. If I could get onto the old board and find your posts, then I could present the evidence, you will just deny it. And I didn't say anything about not being able to disprove them or not.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 7:52:23 GMT
It’s quite easy to use evidence to disprove such science morons too. What Christians have used to convince people they are absolutely right is spiritual terrorism. In the past, they used physical terrorism. Look at this sentence. You think that The West is a White Supremacist Patriarchy. If this is true, then you should be able to objectively prove this is what I believe. The evidence for or against to prove your hypothesis is at your fingertips. Go. I cannot objectively prove that is true. You are asking the impossible. If I could get onto the old board and find your posts, then I could present the evidence, you will just deny it. And I didn't say anything about not being able to disprove them or not. It is not impossible. Go through the archives and read my posts on the subject. If you copy and paste what I wrote, I can’t deny it.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 7:54:57 GMT
I cannot objectively prove that is true. You are asking the impossible. If I could get onto the old board and find your posts, then I could present the evidence, you will just deny it. And I didn't say anything about not being able to disprove them or not. It is not impossible. Go through the archives and read my posts on the subject. If you copy and paste what I wrote, I can’t deny it. Of course you can deny it. "Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic" The excuses can go on. But we both know you believe it, so why are you bothering with this? The fact is that ideology makes people see evidence that isn't there and leads them to misuse actual evidence. Like the wage gap.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 8:00:12 GMT
It is not impossible. Go through the archives and read my posts on the subject. If you copy and paste what I wrote, I can’t deny it. Of course you can deny it. "Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic" The excuses can go on. But we both know you believe it, so why are you bothering with this? The fact is that ideology makes people see evidence that isn't there and leads them to misuse actual evidence. Like the wage gap. If you’re not going to do some homework, then stopped predicting the fucking future of what I will or will not do.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 8:02:33 GMT
Of course you can deny it. "Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic" The excuses can go on. But we both know you believe it, so why are you bothering with this? The fact is that ideology makes people see evidence that isn't there and leads them to misuse actual evidence. Like the wage gap. If you’re not going to do some homework, then stopped predicting the fucking future of what I will or will not do. 1) I didn't predict anything 2) I'm not spending time on this 3) Even if 2 were not a thing, I'm banned from V2 4) Stop deflecting because you're wrong.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 8:05:39 GMT
If you’re not going to do some homework, then stopped predicting the fucking future of what I will or will not do. 1) I didn't predict anything 2) I'm not spending time on this 3) Even if 2 were not a thing, I'm banned from V2 4) Stop deflecting because you're wrong. Of course you can deny it.
"Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic"
Until you prove your accusations, I’m not wrong.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 8:34:43 GMT
1) I didn't predict anything 2) I'm not spending time on this 3) Even if 2 were not a thing, I'm banned from V2 4) Stop deflecting because you're wrong. Of course you can deny it.
"Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic"
Until you prove your accusations, I’m not wrong. "You can" is not "you will"
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Post by gwyn on May 14, 2023 8:40:12 GMT
Of course you can deny it.
"Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic"
Until you prove your accusations, I’m not wrong. "You can" is not "you will" You must, you must, you must increase your bust. 👍
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 14, 2023 8:43:21 GMT
Of course you can deny it.
"Thats not what I mean" "I was being ironic"
Until you prove your accusations, I’m not wrong. "You can" is not "you will" Either way, I’ve not done it yet because you’re too lazy to read through some posts.
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 8:43:58 GMT
"You can" is not "you will" You must, you must, you must increase your bust. 👍 Hickery, dickery dock......
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Post by thorshairspray on May 14, 2023 8:44:41 GMT
"You can" is not "you will" Either way, I’ve not done it yet because you’re too lazy to read through some posts. Are you claiming I denied a thing you claimed I said? I thought that wasn't possible?
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