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Post by jeffersoncody on Jun 4, 2023 20:46:44 GMT
![[hairraise]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/BNwjBofuU0mbfrsNOxJb.gif) And here was me thinking you were Jesus or a gay black man ABBEY.
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Post by lunda2222 on Jun 4, 2023 21:01:18 GMT
A very small collection. Mithril was never mined in Erebor. The Dwarves he looted it from got it from Moria and they managed to take precious little of that with them when they fled the Balrog.
It's possible the chain mail Bilbo was given was the extent of mithril in those halls.
The Balrog that Gimli somehow had no idea existed when he gleefully exclaimed they would be welcomed with open arms by Balin? Do dwarves not talk to each other? Oh, he knew Durin's Bane existed.
The dwarves didn't know excactly what it was, though. Or wether it was still in Moria or had left, or if it still was alive after all it had been 999 years between the time the Dwarves fled Khazad-dûm and Balin tried to recolonize it.
Gimli was certainly worried though. After all the reason Gimli and Glòin was at Imladris in time for the Council was because they had lost contact with the colony.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 21:03:07 GMT
wait...so i revealed to 'merh', in great detail, my fantasy with Bucky Barnes...and that was really you?! ![[frown]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/FySwlyxIVZHczdwVyYqH.gif) |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 5, 2023 7:01:17 GMT
And here was me thinking you were Jesus or a gay black man ABBEY.
How do you know that I don't now identify as all 4?
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 5, 2023 7:02:46 GMT
wait...so i revealed to 'merh', in great detail, my fantasy with Bucky Barnes...and that was really you?!
You got a thing for guys with mechanical arms?
Have you ever seen Kentucky Friend Movie?
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Post by merh on Jun 8, 2023 23:03:46 GMT
And here was me thinking you were Jesus or a gay black man ABBEY.
How do you know that I don't now identify as all 4?
Hey, dude. I take it you hate Star Trek.  |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2023 1:07:47 GMT
How do you know that I don't now identify as all 4?
Hey, dude. I take it you hate Star Trek.
I loved the original Star Trek.........and the movies. Haven't really followed many of the spin-offs.
Star Wars? Same thing. The original 3 were great..........but those 'prequels'? meh.......and the last few? ugh
I did always wonder about the economics of Star Trek and how they got everyone to show up to work without being paid, per se
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Post by bartlesby on Jun 9, 2023 1:21:10 GMT
Hey, dude. I take it you hate Star Trek.
I loved the original Star Trek.........and the movies. Haven't really followed many of the spin-offs.
Star Wars? Same thing. The original 3 were great..........but those 'prequels'? meh.......and the last few? ugh
I did always wonder about the economics of Star Trek and how they got everyone to show up to work without being paid, per se
It doesn't make you wonder for long. Humans are naturally curious and there are achievements outside of money so if everybody had their basic needs fulfilled, there would still be a drive to continue exploring the world. |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2023 1:27:30 GMT
It doesn't make you wonder for long. Humans are naturally curious and there are achievements outside of money so if everybody had their basic needs fulfilled, there would still be a drive to continue exploring the world.
This is a fundamental problem with so many intellectuals, imo.
They state that everyone will operate as they do....be interested in reading and learning and discovering new things while being somewhat productive for their entire lives...........while totally ignoring how much of humanity is perfectly fine with a little Taco Bell and some fentanyl laced joints.
The denial is an amazing thing to observe.
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Post by bartlesby on Jun 9, 2023 1:46:18 GMT
It doesn't make you wonder for long. Humans are naturally curious and there are achievements outside of money so if everybody had their basic needs fulfilled, there would still be a drive to continue exploring the world.
This is a fundamental problem with so many intellectuals, imo.
They state that everyone will operate as they do....be interested in reading and learning and discovering new things while being somewhat productive for their entire lives...........while totally ignoring how much of humanity is perfectly fine with a little Taco Bell and some fentanyl laced joints.
The denial is an amazing thing to observe.
What's your evidence to the contrary? If people went into professions solely for material gain, why then wouldn't everybody go into the most profitable profession? Why would we have scientists if being a doctor or a lawyer paid more and folks' only concern was going after the best paying job? Being driven by material is at best a factor in what motivates them; it's not the whole story by far. You may believe that material is all that matters because you're cynical and old but there are people who exist who do things just for the challenge of doing them and the prestige of being the one who did them, without the need for wealth driving them. Star Trek is a utopian vision of those people being the ones who go out to explore the universe because beyond one's material needs being fulfilled, there is a drive to do greater. If the money to live were the only thing, why do you think these millionaires you love don't retire the second they have enough to comfortably live? |
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Post by abbey1227 on Jun 9, 2023 1:54:05 GMT
What's your evidence to the contrary? If people went into professions solely for material gain, why then wouldn't everybody go into the most profitable profession? Why would we have scientists if being a doctor or a lawyer paid more and folks' only concern was going after the best paying job? Being driven by material is at best a factor in what motivates them; it's not the whole story by far. You may believe that because you're cynical and old but there are people who exist who do things just for the challenge of doing them and the prestige of being the one who did them, without the need for wealth driving them. Star Trek is a utopian vision of those people being the ones who go out to explore the universe because past one's material needs being fulfilled, there is a drive to do greater. Why do you think these millionaires you love don't retire the second they have enough to comfortably live?
Evidence? Decades of seeing plenty of able bodied people that'd sooner sit home on welfare than work, be productive or actually very creative in any meaningful way.
You're starting off on the premise that the $Pay is what motivates most people into a profession to begin with? I don't think that's the case, at all. Most people find areas of interest that stimulate them or they're good at, they pursue further education/skills and hopefully end up with a degree or talent that's worth something in the job market.
Utopian, indeed.
u·to·pi·a
[yo͞oˈtōpēə]
NOUN
an imagined place or state of things in which everything is perfect
When have you seen anything perfect come from humans? ![[shrug]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/GNdzQKpfkkHBBwUPdCiE.gif)
Because highly motivated people seem to never really be satisfied with their last accomplishment. But they are the outliers, not the norm. Otherwise EVERYONE (or at least the majority) would be doing what they do.
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Post by bartlesby on Jun 9, 2023 2:14:36 GMT
What's your evidence to the contrary? If people went into professions solely for material gain, why then wouldn't everybody go into the most profitable profession? Why would we have scientists if being a doctor or a lawyer paid more and folks' only concern was going after the best paying job? Being driven by material is at best a factor in what motivates them; it's not the whole story by far. You may believe that because you're cynical and old but there are people who exist who do things just for the challenge of doing them and the prestige of being the one who did them, without the need for wealth driving them. Star Trek is a utopian vision of those people being the ones who go out to explore the universe because past one's material needs being fulfilled, there is a drive to do greater. Why do you think these millionaires you love don't retire the second they have enough to comfortably live?
Evidence? Decades of seeing plenty of able bodied people that'd sooner sit home on welfare than work, be productive or actually very creative in any meaningful way.
You're starting off on the premise that the $Pay is what motivates most people into a profession to begin with? I don't think that's the case, at all. Most people find areas of interest that stimulate them or they're good at, they pursue further education/skills and hopefully end up with a degree or talent that's worth something in the job market.
Utopian, indeed.
u·to·pi·a
[yo͞oˈtōpēə]
NOUN
an imagined place or state of things in which everything is perfect
When have you seen anything perfect come from humans?
Because highly motivated people seem to never really be satisfied with their last accomplishment. But they are the outliers, not the norm. Otherwise EVERYONE (or at least the majority) would be doing what they do.
Well, I'd argue that able-bodied people didn't start out aimless. If they hadn't had the bad circumstances they were born into, they might have kept their dream to do something, whatever sparked their curiosity. It was the materialist game that crushed their dreams, and even the temporarily impoverished millionaires know it's true down in their booze-kindled guts. If they had the means, they could have achieved, but now they've been poisoned like you to see only hardship and adversity and consider it a rite of adulthood. To expect suffering and to find strength in protecting yourself against it, that's the ultimate idea, and that's why you prize material above all else. A sad fate. A sad sad sad fate. But if they'd never had the hardship which blunted their dreams and left them forever in a rut, would they have done better or worse as a human? |
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Post by Harry Skywalker on Jun 9, 2023 3:16:10 GMT
This is Smaug, the dragon from The Hobbit. Smaug famously stole a mountain full of gold. So full that he sleeps buried under gold. We're talking literal tons and tons of gold by weight. Forbes ranks Smaug as the second wealthiest fictional character. He had been first, but the price of gold took a tumble and now his vast, overwhelming fortune is only worth an estimated $51,400,000,000.00, or $51.4 billion. That means that EVEN THOUGH he has an ENTIRE MOUNTAIN full of almost nothing but solid gold, Smaug would rank as the FIFTEENTH wealthiest American. Fourteen Americans have more money than a gold- I hoarding dragon. Please consider that next time you say deca- billionaires deserve their wealth and shouldn't pay their employees living wages.
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Anyone remember what Smaug had for an employment plan? :P
Smaug is the best and biggest dragon ever from any movie!!! |
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Post by thekindercarebear on Jun 9, 2023 4:05:29 GMT
He also said all of Middle Earth would end up like Mordor if he had to part with 0.00006% of this wealth. He threatened to move to numenor and start his own country... |
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