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Post by tickingmask on Jul 14, 2023 7:37:13 GMT
Oh, come on, that's bloody weak. The people we elect to run the country and someone employed to read the news? Not even in the same post code of similarity. I agree that they are not the same, but the other way round. If "the people we elect to run the country" do something that we consider to be morally repugnant, then we have the power to vote them out next time around. Whereas if the people who are prominent and very highly paid figures in a public institution like the BBC, which we all pay for, does the same thing, we just have to suck it up! We can't even take our custom elsewhere if we don't approve of the moral standards the BBC expects from its employees any more.
However this may be by the by. The argument from the Huw Edwards defenders (like Jonathan Pye below) appears to be that what Huw gets up to in his own private time is none of anybody's business, we shouldn't need to know about it, and the media shouldn't even be reporting it! If that argument is to hold water, does it not also apply to government ministers as well? For instance, sending private WhatsApp messages, even callous and disrespectful ones, isn't illegal (yet, anyway) so why would it be any more of our business what these messages contain? I'd like to see Jonathan Pye extend his argument to include examples like these and see what kind of response he gets! It all smells like sheer hypocrisy to me.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 14, 2023 8:55:35 GMT
I can't sleep so here's some Pie .. SHE WAS ONLY SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD!
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Post by tickingmask on Jul 14, 2023 9:35:25 GMT
SHE WAS ONLY SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD! The other issue I had with his comments was the whole "aaaw, and he is in hospital with mental health issues" bit. Was it these mental health issues that caused him (allegedly) to groom and corrupt this teenager and turn him/her/it into a parent-estranged crack addict - somewhat more noteworthy than having a poo or a wank, I'd have thought, no idea why he's using these as a comparison - or did these mental health issues only come about when he got found out? Shades of Harvey Weinstein turning up to court with a zimmer frame to try and evoke a similar reaction.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 14, 2023 9:40:59 GMT
SHE WAS ONLY SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD! The other issue I had with his comments was the whole "aaaw, and he is in hospital with mental health issues" bit. Was it these mental health issues that caused him (allegedly) to groom and corrupt this teenager and turn him/her/it into a parent-estranged crack addict - somewhat more noteworthy than having a poo or a wank, I'd have thought, no idea why he's using these as a comparison - or did these mental health issues only come about when he got found out? Shades of Harvey Weinstein turning up to court with a zimmer frame to try and evoke a similar reaction. He has suffered from depression for decades .. he’s spoken about that before. But I do agree with the gist of what you said. A weak Pie clip to be sure.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jul 14, 2023 11:54:10 GMT
The other issue I had with his comments was the whole "aaaw, and he is in hospital with mental health issues" bit. Was it these mental health issues that caused him (allegedly) to groom and corrupt this teenager and turn him/her/it into a parent-estranged crack addict - somewhat more noteworthy than having a poo or a wank, I'd have thought, no idea why he's using these as a comparison - or did these mental health issues only come about when he got found out? Shades of Harvey Weinstein turning up to court with a zimmer frame to try and evoke a similar reaction. He has suffered from depression for decades .. he’s spoken about that before. But I do agree with the gist of what you said. A weak Pie clip to be sure. I also don’t agree with the gist of the video and if there is truth in the grooming and harassment allegations he should be under police investigation. And the BBC has to sort out how it reacts to allegations before The Sun decides to hit the gossip button. But I also enjoyed his preplanned moral outrage and watching the reactions of people in the background.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 14, 2023 12:00:08 GMT
He has suffered from depression for decades .. he’s spoken about that before. But I do agree with the gist of what you said. A weak Pie clip to be sure. I also don’t agree with the gist of the video and if there is truth in the grooming and harassment allegations he should be under police investigation. And the BBC has to sort out how it reacts to allegations before The Sun decides to hit the gossip button. But I also enjoyed his preplanned moral outrage and watching the reactions of people in the background. I think most of the passers-by thought he was nuts!
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Post by yggdrasil on Jul 14, 2023 12:35:58 GMT
Can you groom someone who is legally an adult? Unless there is evidence that he was doing so before she was 16 then the word is being wrongly used.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jul 14, 2023 13:08:37 GMT
Can you groom someone who is legally an adult? Unless there is evidence that he was doing so before she was 16 then the word is being wrongly used. Hmm, the only illegal issue here could be indecent images of a minor (under 18). I guess I’ve been hanging around the USA Politics board for too long.
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Post by yggdrasil on Jul 14, 2023 16:10:26 GMT
Can you groom someone who is legally an adult? Unless there is evidence that he was doing so before she was 16 then the word is being wrongly used. Hmm, the only illegal issue here could be indecent images of a minor (under 18). I guess I’ve been hanging around the USA Politics board for too long. I doubt that law would even stand up. She can have sex at 16 but a photo at 17 is illegal?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 14, 2023 16:16:14 GMT
Can you groom someone who is legally an adult? Unless there is evidence that he was doing so before she was 16 then the word is being wrongly used. I thought you weren't an adult until you were 18?
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Post by yggdrasil on Jul 14, 2023 16:19:33 GMT
Can you groom someone who is legally an adult? Unless there is evidence that he was doing so before she was 16 then the word is being wrongly used. I thought you weren't an adult until you were 18? Can have sex at 16. Different ages for different things.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Jul 14, 2023 16:23:59 GMT
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 14, 2023 17:38:53 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Jul 15, 2023 9:28:24 GMT
"From the age of 16 they are legally able to consent to sexual activity,"
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Post by nostromo on Jul 17, 2023 14:29:22 GMT
SHE WAS ONLY SIXTEEN SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD! The other issue I had with his comments was the whole "aaaw, and he is in hospital with mental health issues" bit. Was it these mental health issues that caused him (allegedly) to groom and corrupt this teenager and turn him/her/it into a parent-estranged crack addict - somewhat more noteworthy than having a poo or a wank, I'd have thought, no idea why he's using these as a comparison - or did these mental health issues only come about when he got found out? Shades of Harvey Weinstein turning up to court with a zimmer frame to try and evoke a similar reaction. What an awful post. Edwards has had severe depression. The newspaper knew this.
They could have had another Caroline Flack on their hands. Awful rag should be shut down for destroying lives and careers.
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