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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 6, 2018 22:27:25 GMT
Wow, where to start?
A stunning and engrossing ride through the imaginations and creativity of some very fine film-makers.
The opening scene is stunning in terms of how they see a future city and the opening hour is a pure roller-coaster. As you would expect, you need to take a breather so it does lull for a while after that, but we're back in the final act for more.
There is the obligatory sugar-overloaded wrap-up that Spielberg seems to like, but it is expected so we can ignore.
Overall, it is like Matrix 1 meets Matrix 2 meets Avatar, but lighter than all of those.
Very recommended.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 17:42:18 GMT
Pretty good fun. I would have preferred to have seen a little more of what the real world was like and I agree that after the first hour, you start to lose a bit of interest before it picks up again. And yes, the romance is moronic. Grow up. Yes, you'd bone her (Olivia Cooke is hot (and English)) but the idea that you're mutually falling for each other based on such flimsy criteria is dumb.
The only plot hole was when Sorento was duped into thinking he was in the real world when he wasn't. The whole point of the Oasis is that it isn't reality, and everyone within it is aware that it isn't reality (regardless of how advanced your kit is). It also seemed a little arrogant to assume that '70s and '80s pop culture would still be of any relevance to the people of 2045 (a Zemeckis cube?? Really??).
Oh, and all of these disparate players who come together in the oasis (a worldwide phenomenon) all live in Columbus, so that's nice.
Oh, and having a birthmark apparently means beautiful girls suddenly become hideous.
Oh, and "you killed my mom's sister." Dude, the word you're looking for is 'aunt.'
And what a waste of Ralph Ineson, one of the best actors around.
But mostly fun.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 8, 2018 22:13:34 GMT
but the idea that you're mutually falling for each other based on such flimsy criteria is dumb. Well, they are 18 or so. Hey, I remember when I was 16 and asking this girl out whom I'd met about 3 times and she said 'no' and I was shattered and torn and moped around for a week. So, you know, dumb young emotional rubbish. The only plot hole was when Sorento was duped into thinking he was in the real world when he wasn't. Ah well, I watched that twice. There was a distinct, bet very fast, part where when he is pulling his mask off, they replace it with another mask. Or something like that. So he thinks he is in real world, but isn't. On second viewing, it made sense. (a Zemeckis cube?? Really??). It's a Rubik's cube with the added feature that it sends everyone back in time (I can hear Huey Lewis right now) so it is of its time, an 80s icon with a modern update for his time. One thing I was unsure of is how this film would work for a young audience. So much of it will mean nothing to them. Was Playtown aiming for an older audience? (People who don't generally watch films...?) BTW, the bit where they went into The Shining, I thought was genius. Oh, and for anyone who is reading this but hasn't seen it, this post contains SPOILERS.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:30:13 GMT
Ah well, I watched that twice. There was a distinct, bet very fast, part where when he is pulling his mask off, they replace it with another mask. Or something like that. So he thinks he is in real world, but isn't. On second viewing, it made sense It made no sense at all. You can't leave the oasis then think ' oh, I'm totally in the real world now.' That isn't how the oasis works. At all. It's a Rubik's cube with the added feature that it sends everyone back in time (I can hear Huey Lewis right now) so it is of its time, an 80s icon with a modern update for his time. Everyone...……………….. except the girl. He used the cube, she didn't. Yet off they went together while the IOI soldiers... went back in time? Even though that means nothing since time travel doesn't apply to the real world so those soldiers were what? Just seeing a blank screen for 60 seconds? Yeah, sorry but the more I think about the film, the more laughably idiotic it becomes. The IOI company is allowed to imprison people in a fucking box? Wait what? Oh well, I guess it's because there are no police. Oh wait, here they come... at the end of the film (where the fuck were they before then?)
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 9, 2018 7:30:30 GMT
It made no sense at all. You can't leave the oasis then think ' oh, I'm totally in the real world now.' That isn't how the oasis works. At all. The point is he didn't leave the oasis. He thought he did, but he didn't. Before he left, they put another mask over him, which he didn't notice. It happened incredibly quickly, but it did make sense. Everyone...……………….. except the girl. He used the cube, she didn't. Yet off they went together while the IOI soldiers... went back in time? Even though that means nothing since time travel doesn't apply to the real world so those soldiers were what? Just seeing a blank screen for 60 seconds? Yeah, sorry but the more I think about the film, the more laughably idiotic it becomes. Yes, everyone except them. So what? Have you never had a time-bending Rubik's cube that does that?? Come on, it's Spielberg entertainment, put your analyses away and enjoy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 12:39:31 GMT
It made no sense at all. You can't leave the oasis then think ' oh, I'm totally in the real world now.' That isn't how the oasis works. At all. The point is he didn't leave the oasis. He thought he did, but he didn't. Before he left, they put another mask over him, which he didn't notice. It happened incredibly quickly, but it did make sense. Everyone...……………….. except the girl. He used the cube, she didn't. Yet off they went together while the IOI soldiers... went back in time? Even though that means nothing since time travel doesn't apply to the real world so those soldiers were what? Just seeing a blank screen for 60 seconds? Yeah, sorry but the more I think about the film, the more laughably idiotic it becomes. Yes, everyone except them. So what? Have you never had a time-bending Rubik's cube that does that?? Come on, it's Spielberg entertainment, put your analyses away and enjoy. Yes, but when your in the Oasis , you KNOW you're in the Oasis. You don't think... hey, this is reality. I did enjoy it but your thread made me think about it again. And that made me realise how intensely dumb the whole thing was.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 9, 2018 18:57:22 GMT
Yes, but when your in the Oasis , you KNOW you're in the Oasis. You don't think... hey, this is reality. I did enjoy it but your thread made me think about it again. And that made me realise how intensely dumb the whole thing was. No, they created their own extension to the oasis which looked like his reality. Fuck me, I don't even play games and I know how all this shit could happen. As for the Zemeckis cube, you really think that a game couldn't have a tool that sends everyone within X distance back 60 seconds but you and your friends list aren't affected? It's a game - anything is possible. You are projecting real-world possibilities into the world of a game - that doesn't make any sense at all. How about telling us how intensely dumb Super Mario is because a little fat guy can't jump six feet into the air?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 20:03:09 GMT
Yes, but when your in the Oasis , you KNOW you're in the Oasis. You don't think... hey, this is reality. I did enjoy it but your thread made me think about it again. And that made me realise how intensely dumb the whole thing was. No, they created their own extension to the oasis which looked like his reality. To them! But not to him. He has to believe that the facsimile of him... is actually him! He has to look around and think, yup this is definitely me sat here. 1) The Zemeckis cube sends everyone but the person using it back in time (in the Oasis) because they bought it. 2) Being sent back in time in a ongoing narrative doesn't add up. Once the Zemeckis cube is used on you, you are now permanently 60 seconds behind everyone else in the Oasis... forever. 3) People in the real world are not sent back in time. So what are they doing?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 9, 2018 21:27:52 GMT
To them! But not to him. He has to believe that the facsimile of him... is actually him! He has to look around and think, yup this is definitely me sat here. Yes, which is why they had been scouting around his place before they built it. Were you not paying attention? 1) The Zemeckis cube sends everyone but the person using it back in time (in the Oasis) because they bought it. Really? Well I must have missed the bit where those rules were so specifically stated. 2) Being sent back in time in a ongoing narrative doesn't add up. Once the Zemeckis cube is used on you, you are now permanently 60 seconds behind everyone else in the Oasis... forever. No it isn't, you just rejoin the action when everyone else has moved forward for 60 seconds. All it means is that you were unable to do anything for 60 seconds. Think of you, on the toilet every morning. You are constipated as shit, so you do nothing for 60 seconds (more probably) while the rest of the world moves on. 3) People in the real world are not sent back in time. So what are they doing? Standing still doing nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 21:53:23 GMT
Yes, which is why they had been scouting around his place before they built it. Were you not paying attention? You cannot make a person think they are not a person. You can make their surroundings look like the real world but you cannot make them believe their physical body is present. Really? Well I must have missed the bit where those rules were so specifically stated. If the cubes can be used in groups then they would be bought in groups to save money but for the same effect (plus, you'd want your mates to avoid the effects anyway). No it isn't, you just rejoin the action when everyone else has moved forward for 60 seconds. All it means is that you were unable to do anything for 60 seconds. Then it isn't making time go backwards; it's simply freezing people, stopping them from doing anything -- that's all. So what was with all the rewinding nonsense. For whose benefit? So it's a standing still cube.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 9, 2018 22:16:52 GMT
@hux ,
You seem to have spoken to the creator a lot seeing as you know so much about the programming and what is possible. What was he like? Still doing his best Garth Elgar impression?
Time is relative. Are they standing still or going backwards? Maybe they are going forwards just not as fast. Call it whatever you want - backwards cube, stand still cube, slower forwards cube - all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 23:01:28 GMT
@hux , You seem to have spoken to the creator a lot seeing as you know so much about the programming and what is possible. What was he like? Still doing his best Garth Elgar impression? Time is relative. Are they standing still or going backwards? Maybe they are going forwards just not as fast. Call it whatever you want - backwards cube, stand still cube, slower forwards cube - all the same. It's entertaining -- just kinda dopey. This is a fun watch.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 10, 2018 7:22:14 GMT
It's entertaining -- just kinda dopey. I agree - totally unrealistic. By the way, have you seen Jurassic Park? Dinosaurs in the modern age - load of nonsense, totally unrealistic! And the hallucination sequences in those druggie movies? - totally unrealistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2018 12:42:58 GMT
It's entertaining -- just kinda dopey. I agree - totally unrealistic. By the way, have you seen Jurassic Park? Dinosaurs in the modern age - load of nonsense, totally unrealistic! And the hallucination sequences in those druggie movies? - totally unrealistic. Those movies follow their own internal logic though. Ready Player One made it up as it went along.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Aug 10, 2018 18:50:10 GMT
Those movies follow their own internal logic though. Ready Player One made it up as it went along. I agree. When I hear a word that I haven't heard before, I conclude the speaker is making the language up as they go along.
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