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Post by ofunknownorigins on Sept 21, 2023 18:51:40 GMT
The difference with Vietnam and this is we aren’t doing the fighting. I don’t like proxy wars anymore than you do but Russia started the war, wants to subjugate the Ukrainians forcibly to his will as a puppet state, and is reigning death upon civilians indiscriminately. This is one of those rare post-WWII conflicts where America got it right. We’re doing it for moral reasons and strategic reasons that serve our interests. The war could end tomorrow if Russia leaves. IT ISNT OUR PROBLEM. That's a Ukraine problem, not an America problem. The more I read about zelensky, the more I don't wanna support this man. I was also on the minority side with Iraq, and who won that one? Fuck moral reasons, it's time we help out own... It is our problem because of the Budapest Memorandum. Who won Iraq? Technically the US/UK, etc. It was a Pyrrhic victory given that while the terrorists were defeated and the Iraqis semi-Democratic government survived, the Iranians became the dominant voice there. So it absolutely was not worth the effort and should’ve never been waged. We would’ve been sucked into the war in Ukraine sooner or later and would’ve had to send men and women to fight there. It’s happened in every European war since the Great War.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 18:52:48 GMT
So, you all enjoy proxy wars? This happened with Iraq, too. When we were gonna go to Iraq, it got massive support. I was one of the ones against that, as well... Vietnam was also a disaster. We can't learn our lesson.... The difference with Vietnam and this is we aren’t doing the fighting. I don’t like proxy wars anymore than you do but Russia started the war, wants to subjugate the Ukrainians forcibly to his will as a puppet state, and is reigning death upon civilians indiscriminately. This is one of those rare post-WWII conflicts where America got it right. We’re doing it for moral reasons and strategic reasons that serve our interests. The war could end tomorrow if Russia leaves. It's not a "proxy war" by any stretch of the imagination and this idiot doesn't know what he's talking about, but that's another line he repeats ad nauseam because he sees a MAGAt spew it. A proxy war is when one country attacks another for its own gain and a third country from its homeland helps the aggressor in achieving that gain. In this case, it was an illegal, unprovoked attack and invasion by Russia against the sovereign country of Ukraine that had a right to defend itself. The U.S. from its homeland supporting Ukraine's defense doesn't have a damn thing to do with helping a country gain anything from another country, not a damn thing to do with the U.S. being in a proxy war. It's completely idiotic comparing this to Iraq where the U.S. actually sent troops to Iraq and invaded a country that never attacked the U.S.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Sept 21, 2023 18:57:46 GMT
It is our problem because of the Budapest Memorandum. Who won Iraq? Technically the US/UK, etc. It was a Pyrrhic victory given that while the terrorists were defeated and the Iraqis semi-Democratic government survived, the Iranians were became the dominant voice there. So it absolutely was not worth the effort and should’ve never been waged. We would’ve been sucked into the war in Ukraine sooner or later and would’ve had to send men and women to fight there. It’s happened in every European war since the Great War. We don't have too. That's the thing, what if we...idk, stay neutral and help our own out? Yea, we sure won Iraq, a war that was lied about to get us there. You know who won Iraq? Dick Cheney, he made a nice profit from that... It’s a global world today. We would get sucked in like Al Pacino in Godfather III. Hey you asked me a question about who won in Iraq, technically the US did. Like I said it was Pyrrhic victory (the Iranians got the most benefit whereas we got none), but factually that’s what happened. I didn’t say I supported it nor that it was worth waging either. But them’s the facts when emotion is pulled out of it.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2023 19:03:32 GMT
The difference with Vietnam and this is we aren’t doing the fighting. I don’t like proxy wars anymore than you do but Russia started the war, wants to subjugate the Ukrainians forcibly to his will as a puppet state, and is reigning death upon civilians indiscriminately. This is one of those rare post-WWII conflicts where America got it right. We’re doing it for moral reasons and strategic reasons that serve our interests. The war could end tomorrow if Russia leaves. It's not a "proxy war" by any stretch of the imagination and this idiot doesn't know what he's talking about, but that's another line he repeats ad nauseam because he sees a MAGAt spew it. A proxy war is when one country attacks another for its own gain and a third country from its homeland helps the aggressor in achieving that gain. In this case, it was an illegal, unprovoked attack and invasion by Russia against the sovereign country of Ukraine that had a right to defend itself. The U.S. from its homeland supporting Ukraine's defense doesn't have a damn thing to do with helping a country gain anything from another country, not a damn thing to do with the U.S. being in a proxy war. It's completely idiotic comparing this to Iraq where the U.S. actually sent troops to Iraq and invaded a country that never attacked the U.S. Are you referring to Shady as an idiot? Please don't do that.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2023 19:10:35 GMT
Are you referring to Shady as an idiot? Please don't do that. He doesn't like me. I don't even hate the guy, he's imo, the most depressing poster The man sold his soul to vote in Biden. He's not the same poster, as he was. He's now just another anti maga guy. I have some hope for him. Then again, I also have hope that the Ford Edsel is going to make a huge comeback someday.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 19:17:29 GMT
It's not a "proxy war" by any stretch of the imagination and this idiot doesn't know what he's talking about, but that's another line he repeats ad nauseam because he sees a MAGAt spew it. A proxy war is when one country attacks another for its own gain and a third country from its homeland helps the aggressor in achieving that gain. In this case, it was an illegal, unprovoked attack and invasion by Russia against the sovereign country of Ukraine that had a right to defend itself. The U.S. from its homeland supporting Ukraine's defense doesn't have a damn thing to do with helping a country gain anything from another country, not a damn thing to do with the U.S. being in a proxy war. It's completely idiotic comparing this to Iraq where the U.S. actually sent troops to Iraq and invaded a country that never attacked the U.S. Are you referring to Shady as an idiot? Please don't do that. I just did, and he in fact is one, but I'm sure that only conspiracy theorists like yourself and far-right MAGAts defending him says a lot to the contrary.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2023 19:36:14 GMT
Are you referring to Shady as an idiot? Please don't do that. I just did, and he in fact is one, but I'm sure that only conspiracy theorists like yourself and far-right MAGAts defending him says a lot to the contrary. I feel sorry for you, Dracula. He's a good man. It's too bad that you can't see beyond these silly partisan games that our overlords have given us to play. Shady and I have freed ourselves from that ridiculous nonsense. And sorry to burst your bubble, but it is a proxy war. The US has fought them many times. Nothing shameful in and of itself.
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Post by 🥥 🌴 Molly 🥥 🌴 on Sept 21, 2023 19:44:12 GMT
No, I did not “start it” and I proved it yesterday. Now quit your whining and STFU. I wasn’t even talking to you.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 19:51:27 GMT
I just did, and he in fact is one, but I'm sure that only conspiracy theorists like yourself and far-right MAGAts defending him says a lot to the contrary. I feel sorry for you, Dracula. He's a good man. It's too bad that you can't see beyond these silly partisan games that our overlords have given us to play. Shady and I have freed ourselves from that ridiculous nonsense. And sorry to burst your bubble, but it is a proxy war. The US has fought them many times. Nothing shameful in and of itself. Nope, not a proxy war, for the reason I explained. There are opinions you can link to that would disagree, including articles that are merely reporting on what Putin himself calls it, but this is not the U.S. helping a country invade another and gain territory, not a proxy war. This was just Russia invading Ukraine. Military experts have also explained it's not a proxy war. Why would you "feel sorry" for me simply ignoring someone on this board? Am I forced to be his friend? Is he Jesus Christ or something? In the meantime, this guy has kept whining and bitching about me for roughly 6 months now that I've ignored him, but you "feel sorry" for *me*? That's quite the irony there dude.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 19:57:04 GMT
Do you really want to go through that again? I wasn't talking to your dumb ass. and I already pointed out you lied about not going after me first yesterday. I'm not sure why this incel is even on this board when all he does here is play the role of Nazi moderator chiming in to threads to just whine and bitch about posters who are leftists and how he believes they're acting in a way he disapproves, even in conversations that are none of his concern, simply because he wants to get in there to be a disruptive prick, with the ongoing bit about "calling out" this or that person, sounding every bit like a high school punk, boring and stupid as hell. That's literally *all* that this guy does here, pathetic as hell. If he hates this board so much, he can leave any time and no one will miss him, but either he thinks people are interested in hearing over and over his broken-record rant about how much he hates them, or he just loves to repeat the hate for some reason because he's miserable and rotten inside and perhaps this is how he finds comfort 24/7 for years now.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 21, 2023 20:11:29 GMT
I feel sorry for you, Dracula. He's a good man. It's too bad that you can't see beyond these silly partisan games that our overlords have given us to play. Shady and I have freed ourselves from that ridiculous nonsense. And sorry to burst your bubble, but it is a proxy war. The US has fought them many times. Nothing shameful in and of itself. Nope, not a proxy war, for the reason I explained. There are opinions you can link to that would disagree, including articles that are merely reporting on what Putin himself calls it, but this is not the U.S. helping a country invade another and gain territory, not a proxy war. This was just Russia invading Ukraine. Military experts have also explained it's not a proxy war. Why would you "feel sorry" for me simply ignoring someone on this board? Am I forced to be his friend? Is he Jesus Christ or something? In the meantime, this guy has kept whining and bitching about me for roughly 6 months now that I've ignored him, but you "feel sorry" for *me*? That's quite the irony there dude. It is a proxy war, and Shady is not an idiot. Hopefully someday you'll understand. In the meantime, my bloodsucking friend, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 20:17:49 GMT
Nope, not a proxy war, for the reason I explained. There are opinions you can link to that would disagree, including articles that are merely reporting on what Putin himself calls it, but this is not the U.S. helping a country invade another and gain territory, not a proxy war. This was just Russia invading Ukraine. Military experts have also explained it's not a proxy war. Why would you "feel sorry" for me simply ignoring someone on this board? Am I forced to be his friend? Is he Jesus Christ or something? In the meantime, this guy has kept whining and bitching about me for roughly 6 months now that I've ignored him, but you "feel sorry" for *me*? That's quite the irony there dude. It is a proxy war, and Shady is not an idiot. Hopefully someday you'll understand. In the meantime, my bloodsucking friend, we'll just have to agree to disagree. It's not a proxy war according to military experts, but you'll find the opinion that suits you from Putin and far-right commentators. You disagree? Fantastic. We disagree. As far as your little friend, I think he's an idiot and you can go on thinking he isn't. What's the point to this? Am I forced to like him? I simply ignore the guy and he's just someone who comes here to whine and bitch about me and others nonstop. I'm not the one to "feel sorry" for here when I'm not here to look for trouble with someone I don't give the slightest shit about yet he admits himself he's only here to cause trouble and even admits he hates the world.
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Post by pathfinder on Sept 21, 2023 20:35:44 GMT
Is she suppose to be sucking dick? Is the mic a metaphor for a dick?
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Post by pathfinder on Sept 21, 2023 20:46:25 GMT
I appreciate how well some Ukrainian bitches can shake their ass.
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Post by Dracula on Sept 21, 2023 20:46:40 GMT
Is she suppose to be sucking dick? Is the mic a metaphor for a dick? It's not sexual. ASMR is a big thing on YouTube. One of the top ASMR performers is Gibi. They use binaural microphones that pick up every detail so that it sounds as if she's right next to you, and the sounds are "triggers" that give you relaxing "tingles" that induce sleep.
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