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Post by papamihel on Sept 30, 2023 5:17:00 GMT
Any organized crime syndicate in Russia today is an enfranchised servant of the state or irrelevant. Well they're definetly not irrelevant (Mafia boss Semion Mogilevich's net worth is estimated to be 10 billion dollars) If he was allowed to accumulate such wealth he falls under the first category. |
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Post by JHA Durant on Sept 30, 2023 7:24:30 GMT
Probably Dmitri Medvedev, he kept the seat warm for Putin for a few years and he's the current Prime Minister of Russia.
Alexander Bortnikov is another name I've heard thrown around, he's the head of the FSB.
With either of these men (or even with someone else close to Putin) I don't think the situation with Ukraine would really change much, unless shit hits the fan and there's internal unrest or a party coup like what happened after Stalin died.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2023 7:37:28 GMT
Ahh..what were you saying? Oh right, yes go ahead and take all of Ukraine. No problem ![[grin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/CBubFSUbXfyoLMZUjeBb.gif) |
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Sept 30, 2023 13:49:07 GMT
Putin's mistakes continue to stack up, although given the resources that Russia had it could have easily defeated the United States if Putin had not been such an incompetent leader. Putin's mistakes, Putin's mistakes, blah, blah, blah...Remember, it was Putin who revived Russia after the DISASTER of the Yeltsin years. Yeltsin, following the advice of stupid American economic "experts", privatized the economy and sold off state run industries to the highest bidders creating the oligarch class that began to dominate Russia. Average Russians suffered horribly under Yeltsin's tottering economy - millions were unemployed, drug abuse went up, the suicide rate went up, and the crime rate went way up. It was Putin who reversed a lot of Yeltsin's mistakes and re-nationalized some of those industries to benefit the Russian people. Putin chased some of the worst criminal oligarchs out of Russia (most of them are now living in Tel Aviv...surprise, surprise) and stabilized the economy. There's a reason he's so popular with his people. |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 30, 2023 13:51:10 GMT
Putin's mistakes continue to stack up, although given the resources that Russia had it could have easily defeated the United States if Putin had not been such an incompetent leader. Putin's mistakes, Putin's mistakes, blah, blah, blah...Remember, it was Putin who revived Russia after the DISASTER of the Yeltsin years. Yeltsin, following the advice of stupid American economic "experts", privatized the economy and sold off state run industries to the highest bidders creating the oligarch class that began to dominate Russia. Average Russians suffered horribly under Yeltsin's tottering economy - millions were unemployed, drug abuse went up, the suicide rate went up, and the crime rate went way up. It was Putin who reversed a lot of Yeltsin's mistakes and re-nationalized some of those industries to benefit the Russian people. Putin chased some of the worst criminal oligarchs out of Russia (most of them are now living in Tel Aviv...surprise, surprise) and stabilized the economy. There's a reason he's so popular with his people. And he made the trains run on time
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 30, 2023 13:56:33 GMT
Putin's mistakes, Putin's mistakes, blah, blah, blah...Remember, it was Putin who revived Russia after the DISASTER of the Yeltsin years. Yeltsin, following the advice of stupid American economic "experts", privatized the economy and sold off state run industries to the highest bidders creating the oligarch class that began to dominate Russia. Average Russians suffered horribly under Yeltsin's tottering economy - millions were unemployed, drug abuse went up, the suicide rate went up, and the crime rate went way up. It was Putin who reversed a lot of Yeltsin's mistakes and re-nationalized some of those industries to benefit the Russian people. Putin chased some of the worst criminal oligarchs out of Russia (most of them are now living in Tel Aviv...surprise, surprise) and stabilized the economy. There's a reason he's so popular with his people. And he made the trains run on time
It's funny how little it takes to make the average person happy |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 30, 2023 13:59:24 GMT
And he made the trains run on time
It's funny how little it takes to make the average person happy It made the Italians happy
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 30, 2023 14:01:01 GMT
It's funny how little it takes to make the average person happy It made the Italians happy
And the Soviets........for awhile, anyway.
I have a favorite saying: We're ALL whores........the only difference is the asking price.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2023 14:03:36 GMT
Putin's mistakes continue to stack up, although given the resources that Russia had it could have easily defeated the United States if Putin had not been such an incompetent leader. Putin's mistakes, Putin's mistakes, blah, blah, blah...Remember, it was Putin who revived Russia after the DISASTER of the Yeltsin years. Yeltsin, following the advice of stupid American economic "experts", privatized the economy and sold off state run industries to the highest bidders creating the oligarch class that began to dominate Russia. Average Russians suffered horribly under Yeltsin's tottering economy - millions were unemployed, drug abuse went up, the suicide rate went up, and the crime rate went way up. It was Putin who reversed a lot of Yeltsin's mistakes and re-nationalized some of those industries to benefit the Russian people. Putin chased some of the worst criminal oligarchs out of Russia (most of them are now living in Tel Aviv...surprise, surprise) and stabilized the economy. There's a reason he's so popular with his people. From what I know Yelstin did some good things too and was trying to establish a democracy in Russia. Putin on the other hand..also how do we know he is so loved without free elections? |
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 30, 2023 14:07:45 GMT
It made the Italians happy
And the Soviets........for awhile, anyway.
I have a favorite saying: We're ALL whores........the only difference is the asking price.
There are still Russians who march around on May Day with posters of Marx, Lenin and especially Stalin. And look at how the North Koreans carried on when Kim Il Sung croaked.
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Post by abbey1227 on Sept 30, 2023 14:19:11 GMT
And the Soviets........for awhile, anyway.
I have a favorite saying: We're ALL whores........the only difference is the asking price.
There are still Russians who march around on May Day with posters of Marx, Lenin and especially Stalin. And look at how the North Koreans carried on when Kim Il Sung croaked.
It is puzzling.........for a 'ruthless killer dictator' ...........Putin still allows them to be alive?
And it shouldn't be all that surprising........we've got a ton of them here in the US. Many with teaching degrees.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 30, 2023 14:28:29 GMT
There are still Russians who march around on May Day with posters of Marx, Lenin and especially Stalin. And look at how the North Koreans carried on when Kim Il Sung croaked.
It is puzzling.........for a 'ruthless killer dictator' ...........Putin still allows them to be alive?
And it shouldn't be all that surprising........we've got a ton of them here in the US. Many with teaching degrees.
Putin was KGB. He was a Bolshevik to the core. He's Stalin without the bells and whistles, no hammer and sickle, no 300 lbs of medals on his chest. But he's cut from the same cloth. Just as Stalin was Nicholas II without the crown and the double Eagle.
The more things change...
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