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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Nov 15, 2023 12:21:46 GMT
Belief in Christ the Savior and/or belief in physical self only, can lead humans to act in any manner they want, (which many do), because the belief lies to them that it will either save them, or since there is nothing after the body dies, it doesn't matter how one treats the world and others.
If one lives with a belief that doesn't include accountability for their time here on earth, (only a man made one), then it's no wonder the world is so messed up.
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Post by drystyx on Nov 15, 2023 18:40:49 GMT
You're speaking about fundamentalism, which isn't even close to Christianity.
Fundamentalists are set apart from Christians by the very things Jesus spoke against. Being lawyers instead of adhering to the spirit and justice of the law.
Fundamentalists believe two things that separate them from others. First, that God is omnipotent on this world, which means they deny that Jesus ever called the enemy the prince of this world. The fundamentalist believes that there is good in evil, which was the opposite of what Jesus said. They think that if your parent, sibling, or child dies of Cancer, that God caused it to do something good from it. That's not anything Jesus ever did, and it doesn't come from the Holy Ghost. The evil of the world comes from Satan, who made the laws of Physics and Entropy and made it so that one can only get energy by taking it from another living thing. The fundamentalist believes God invented these laws of Physics and Nature, which would make him as evil as Satan.
Second, fundamentalists believe the one line that Jesus claims he is the way outdoes all his other lines. He was the way while on Earth, but he clearly stated he left Earth and the Holy Ghost remained behind, and that the one unpardonable sin was blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.
The Holy Ghost is the way to Heaven, because the Holy Ghost is the truth that Heaven is the place where you attain something.
So, the humane deeds done for the spirit of the good true world, which is Heaven, is indeed the way to Heaven.
There really aren't that many fundamentalists. They are people who haven't studied the Bible in depth. They are a minority of any congregation, I dare say.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Nov 21, 2023 4:39:55 GMT
You're speaking about fundamentalism, which isn't even close to Christianity. Fundamentalists are set apart from Christians by the very things Jesus spoke against. Being lawyers instead of adhering to the spirit and justice of the law. Fundamentalists believe two things that separate them from others. First, that God is omnipotent on this world, which means they deny that Jesus ever called the enemy the prince of this world. The fundamentalist believes that there is good in evil, which was the opposite of what Jesus said. They think that if your parent, sibling, or child dies of Cancer, that God caused it to do something good from it. That's not anything Jesus ever did, and it doesn't come from the Holy Ghost. The evil of the world comes from Satan, who made the laws of Physics and Entropy and made it so that one can only get energy by taking it from another living thing. The fundamentalist believes God invented these laws of Physics and Nature, which would make him as evil as Satan. Second, fundamentalists believe the one line that Jesus claims he is the way outdoes all his other lines. He was the way while on Earth, but he clearly stated he left Earth and the Holy Ghost remained behind, and that the one unpardonable sin was blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost is the way to Heaven, because the Holy Ghost is the truth that Heaven is the place where you attain something. So, the humane deeds done for the spirit of the good true world, which is Heaven, is indeed the way to Heaven. There really aren't that many fundamentalists. They are people who haven't studied the Bible in depth. They are a minority of any congregation, I dare say. Some Christians can be fundamentalists, or they claim to be Christians, but are asshole noobs.
I don't get this talk of heaven and hell. Heaven and Hell defined as what?
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Post by scream on Nov 22, 2023 19:13:28 GMT
I just love this! I archived it onto my cell phone so I can text it to the few atheist friends that I have!
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Post by amyghost on Nov 23, 2023 14:49:17 GMT
I just love this! I archived it onto my cell phone so I can text it to the few atheist friends that I have! It's a great piece of visual shorthand for one of the things about Xtianity that's always got under my skin. We're told that Jesus' 'sacrifice' was given to us by him as a 'great gift'. But it's not pointed out that it's a gift you're not given much choice in accepting; either you accept it, or if you reject it, you go to Hell for keeps. Not too many people I know who've offered me a gift made the offer conditional on that, if I didn't take it, I'd spend an eternity roasting in horrible torment. Xtians have odd ideas about what constitutes gifts and gift-giving, obviously.
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Post by scream on Nov 28, 2023 0:11:46 GMT
I just love this! I archived it onto my cell phone so I can text it to the few atheist friends that I have! It's a great piece of visual shorthand for one of the things about Xtianity that's always got under my skin. We're told that Jesus' 'sacrifice' was given to us by him as a 'great gift'. But it's not pointed out that it's a gift you're not given much choice in accepting; either you accept it, or if you reject it, you go to Hell for keeps. Not too many people I know who've offered me a gift made the offer conditional on that, if I didn't take it, I'd spend an eternity roasting in horrible torment. Xtians have odd ideas about what constitutes gifts and gift-giving, obviously. In addition, Jesus didn't die and stay dead as a sacrifice. He got to come back. So what was the sacrifice? And it was his own father directing all this. He was the one who needed the sacrifice. Jesus did it because he didn't want us to be sacrificed. Sounds like toxic parenting to me...
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Dec 5, 2023 4:22:15 GMT
It's a great piece of visual shorthand for one of the things about Xtianity that's always got under my skin. We're told that Jesus' 'sacrifice' was given to us by him as a 'great gift'. But it's not pointed out that it's a gift you're not given much choice in accepting; either you accept it, or if you reject it, you go to Hell for keeps. Not too many people I know who've offered me a gift made the offer conditional on that, if I didn't take it, I'd spend an eternity roasting in horrible torment. Xtians have odd ideas about what constitutes gifts and gift-giving, obviously. In addition, Jesus didn't die and stay dead as a sacrifice. He got to come back. So what was the sacrifice? And it was his own father directing all this. He was the one who needed the sacrifice. Jesus did it because he didn't want us to be sacrificed. Sounds like toxic parenting to me... There are 2 possible explantions:
a) Jesus didn't really die and was taken down from the cross and exiled somewhere else. If he was glimpsed, then some "fairytale" story was made up he had arisen from the dead, which leads into the second explanation...
b) ...Christ's ressurection from death is a "fairytale".
I guess when push comes to shove, "fairytales" are the heart and soul of Christianity.
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Post by Hnefahogg on Dec 5, 2023 11:25:10 GMT
Christianity is not about being good. It teaches humans are inherently bad and do not deserve God's grace.
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