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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 2:51:04 GMT
I live in the real world, and here Hagee slavishly supports everything Israel does. His belief Jews will accept the Messiah or something bad is going to happen to them is like me telling my kids if they don't believe in Santa they won't get a present therefore I'm anti-children. Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward. No, Paul didn't get it right. Paul is seldom right about anything.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 2:55:59 GMT
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 19, 2023 3:23:46 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 3:27:18 GMT
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 19, 2023 3:28:15 GMT
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Post by amyghost on Nov 19, 2023 9:21:29 GMT
Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward. No, Paul didn't get it right. Paul is seldom right about anything. Paul got it right about this POS as far as I'm concerned. You want to prostrate yourself at his feet, be my guest.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 19, 2023 9:33:07 GMT
Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward. No, Paul didn't get it right. Paul is seldom right about anything. You hope I didn't get it right.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 19, 2023 9:39:24 GMT
Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward. I Hagee is secretly hating Jews inside his church there'd be video in this era of everyone having a camera in their pockets and the ability to put that video out to the world. It's not like it's 1980. Hagee doesn't have to do an every Sunday rant about the evils of The Jew to his flock. This is a common and shared assumption among his congregation. Jews killed Jesus, they are damned, but they have a vital and keystone role in God's plan for the end times. They have to be tolerated in order to be made the fullest use of so that God's plan can be fulfilled. Hagee's ilk see this as their mission. Study up on these people. Don't let the "If I didn't see it on the internet, it didn't happen" trope guide your thinking as regard to Hagee, and all the rest of that sorry-ass crew of mental sixtoes.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 14:57:47 GMT
No, Paul didn't get it right. Paul is seldom right about anything. Paul got it right about this POS as far as I'm concerned. You want to prostrate yourself at his feet, be my guest. Hey genius, he got it right about him being dangerous. He got it wrong about him being anti-Jewish. Hope that helps.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 14:59:59 GMT
I Hagee is secretly hating Jews inside his church there'd be video in this era of everyone having a camera in their pockets and the ability to put that video out to the world. It's not like it's 1980. Hagee doesn't have to do an every Sunday rant about the evils of The Jew to his flock. This is a common and shared assumption among his congregation. Jews killed Jesus, they are damned, but they have a vital and keystone role in God's plan for the end times. They have to be tolerated in order to be made the fullest use of so that God's plan can be fulfilled. Hagee's ilk see this as their mission. Study up on these people. Don't let the "If I didn't see it on the internet, it didn't happen" trope guide your thinking as regard to Hagee, and all the rest of that sorry-ass crew of mental sixtoes. You don't know what you're talking about. You think you know, but you don't. Your intense hatred of Christianity blinds you.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 19, 2023 16:35:35 GMT
Hagee doesn't have to do an every Sunday rant about the evils of The Jew to his flock. This is a common and shared assumption among his congregation. Jews killed Jesus, they are damned, but they have a vital and keystone role in God's plan for the end times. They have to be tolerated in order to be made the fullest use of so that God's plan can be fulfilled. Hagee's ilk see this as their mission. Study up on these people. Don't let the "If I didn't see it on the internet, it didn't happen" trope guide your thinking as regard to Hagee, and all the rest of that sorry-ass crew of mental sixtoes. You don't know what you're talking about. You think you know, but you don't. Your intense hatred of Christianity blinds you. That is your own hatred blinding and deafening you.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 19, 2023 16:57:04 GMT
Hagee doesn't have to do an every Sunday rant about the evils of The Jew to his flock. This is a common and shared assumption among his congregation. Jews killed Jesus, they are damned, but they have a vital and keystone role in God's plan for the end times. They have to be tolerated in order to be made the fullest use of so that God's plan can be fulfilled. Hagee's ilk see this as their mission. Study up on these people. Don't let the "If I didn't see it on the internet, it didn't happen" trope guide your thinking as regard to Hagee, and all the rest of that sorry-ass crew of mental sixtoes. You don't know what you're talking about. You think you know, but you don't. Your intense hatred of Christianity blinds you. Uh-huh. You don't say .
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Post by amyghost on Nov 19, 2023 16:58:05 GMT
Paul got it right about this POS as far as I'm concerned. You want to prostrate yourself at his feet, be my guest. Hey genius, he got it right about him being dangerous. He got it wrong about him being anti-Jewish. Hope that helps. Yeah, your opinion is duly noted .
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Post by amyghost on Nov 19, 2023 17:06:36 GMT
He is still alive? He has been shilling this crap since when- the Kennedy Administration? They come out of the womb hawking their crap, apparently. They start 'em out young, sort of like Marjoe Gortner. Hagee's probably been doing this rap since he was a tyke and he's 83...so he's had quite the span to perfect his schtick. Looking up his bio just now, I did read that he supported arch-redneck George Wallace, and started a movement called 'Wallace Youth' back in 1968. So at least he's been consistent in his trajectory of skankiness down the years.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 19, 2023 17:32:54 GMT
You don't know what you're talking about. You think you know, but you don't. Your intense hatred of Christianity blinds you. Uh-huh. You don't say . I say.
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