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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2023 20:37:46 GMT
Hey filth......I'm not a prophet. I'm just a herald. Hope that helps. Same difference, you both speak with the Voice of God. And the word you guys are supposed to using is “vermin!” You know, like the nasty bugs to be exterminated, rather than dirt, which can be swept under the rug. If you get exterminated it won't be me doing it, asshole. And for whatever consolation it's worth, I'm on the extermination list too. You're going first though.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 18, 2023 20:58:07 GMT
They have always been antisemitic. It’s about Israel, not the Jews. These heterodox Christians believe, via their interpretation of Scripture and what they assume is direction from the Holy Spirit, Jerusalem belongs to the Christians, not the Jews. This is where Jesus will rule from his kingdom on Earth, but first there needs to be big war to cleanse the infidels in order to make it holy enough for God Himself to come down to Earth. And He hasn’t done that in two thousand years. It is all in the Bible and if you can figure out all the clues, you will know the exact time the Messiah will return. As of this date, all those thousand of prophecies have failed, but Hagee and kind are not letting that stop them. They only have to get it right once. The biggest, by far, frustration Christians have had with the Jews since the beginning almost, is why didn’t the Jews accept Jesus Christ as their True Messiah? He came directly to them, but they rejected him. The many of the answers to this confounding question has lead to the deaths of millions. Neither Communists, atheists, liberals, Nazis, White Supremacists, nor Muslims invented antisemitism and the genocidal urge to revenge God. This comes from Christianity. This instilled hatred as sacredness is the Universal Church’s feet of clay. It is the fatal flaw in so much of the good work they have done over the millennia. Hagee is a malignant Medieval throwback, the kind who believes in real Crusades and witch-burnings.
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Post by ayatollah on Nov 18, 2023 21:02:22 GMT
They have always been antisemitic. It’s about Israel, not the Jews. These heterodox Christians believe, via their interpretation of Scripture and what they assume is direction from the Holy Spirit, Jerusalem belongs to the Christians, not the Jews. This is where Jesus will rule from his kingdom on Earth, but first there needs to be big war to cleanse the infidels in order to make it holy enough for God Himself to come down to Earth. And He hasn’t done that in two thousand years. It is all in the Bible and you if you can figure out all the clues, you will know the exact time the Messiah will return. As of this date, all those thousand of prophecies have failed, but Hagee and kind are not letting that stop them. They only have to get it right once. The biggest, by far, frustration Christians have had with the Jews since the beginning almost, is why didn’t the Jews accept Jesus Christ as their True Messiah? He came directly to them, but they rejected him. The many answers to confounding question has lead to the deaths of millions. Neither Communists, atheists, liberals, Nazis, White Supremacists, nor Muslims invented antisemitism and the genocidal urge to revenge God. This comes from Christianity. This instilled hatred as sacredness is the Universal Church’s feet of clay. It is the fatal flaw in so much of the good work they have done over the millennia. Hagee is a malignant Medieval throwback, the kind who believes in real Crusades and witch-burnings. That doesn't make sense. People who oppose the Israeli government are antisemites, but people devoted utterly to its protection and literally believe it can do no wrong are also antisemites. Does it occur to you that maybe the term is just tossed around too easily?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 18, 2023 21:37:18 GMT
They have always been antisemitic. It’s about Israel, not the Jews. These heterodox Christians believe, via their interpretation of Scripture and what they assume is direction from the Holy Spirit, Jerusalem belongs to the Christians, not the Jews. This is where Jesus will rule from his kingdom on Earth, but first there needs to be big war to cleanse the infidels in order to make it holy enough for God Himself to come down to Earth. And He hasn’t done that in two thousand years. It is all in the Bible and you if you can figure out all the clues, you will know the exact time the Messiah will return. As of this date, all those thousand of prophecies have failed, but Hagee and kind are not letting that stop them. They only have to get it right once. The biggest, by far, frustration Christians have had with the Jews since the beginning almost, is why didn’t the Jews accept Jesus Christ as their True Messiah? He came directly to them, but they rejected him. The many answers to confounding question has lead to the deaths of millions. Neither Communists, atheists, liberals, Nazis, White Supremacists, nor Muslims invented antisemitism and the genocidal urge to revenge God. This comes from Christianity. This instilled hatred as sacredness is the Universal Church’s feet of clay. It is the fatal flaw in so much of the good work they have done over the millennia. Hagee is a malignant Medieval throwback, the kind who believes in real Crusades and witch-burnings. That doesn't make sense. People who oppose the Israeli government are antisemites, but people devoted utterly to its protection and literally believe it can do no wrong are also antisemites. Does it occur to you that maybe the term is just tossed around too easily? That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2023 21:50:47 GMT
That doesn't make sense. People who oppose the Israeli government are antisemites, but people devoted utterly to its protection and literally believe it can do no wrong are also antisemites. Does it occur to you that maybe the term is just tossed around too easily? That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy. Hagee is doing what the Illuminati hired him to do, convincing suckers that they ae going to ride out of here on "the Rapture." And when it appears to happen and these people realize that they haven't gotten off the ground, about 99% of them are going to fall away and become Noahides.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 18, 2023 21:51:24 GMT
That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy. Hagee is doing what the Illuminati hired him to do, convincing suckers that they ae going to ride out of here on "the Rapture." And when it appears to happen and these people realize that they haven't gotten off the ground, about 99% of them are going to fall away and become Noahides. Of course
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Post by ayatollah on Nov 18, 2023 22:07:08 GMT
That doesn't make sense. People who oppose the Israeli government are antisemites, but people devoted utterly to its protection and literally believe it can do no wrong are also antisemites. Does it occur to you that maybe the term is just tossed around too easily? That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy. No ma'am, I mean the term anti-semitism is tossed around too easily. If Christian Zionists like Haggee are antisemites but people who oppose what the Netanyahu government does are also antisemites, then it seems everyone is.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Nov 18, 2023 22:22:35 GMT
That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy. No ma'am, I mean the term anti-semitism is tossed around too easily. If Christian Zionists like Haggee are antisemites but people who oppose what the Netanyahu government does are also antisemites, then it seems everyone is. No, it is not for the reasons mentioned above. If a person thinks the Jews should be dispatched if they are in the way of Jesus’ imminent return, and all the “signs and wonders” are saying it will be very soon, is that antisemitism?
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Post by geddy on Nov 18, 2023 22:26:45 GMT
Hagee has been preaching this stuff for many years as I've read his books and watched his TV program and as an RC never had a problem with him.
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Post by ayatollah on Nov 18, 2023 22:29:40 GMT
No ma'am, I mean the term anti-semitism is tossed around too easily. If Christian Zionists like Haggee are antisemites but people who oppose what the Netanyahu government does are also antisemites, then it seems everyone is. No, it is not for the reasons mentioned above. If a person thinks the Jews should be dispatched if they are in the way of Jesus’ imminent return, and all the “signs and wonders” are say it will be very soon, is that antisemitism? I live in the real world, and here Hagee slavishly supports everything Israel does. His belief Jews will accept the Messiah or something bad is going to happen to them is like me telling my kids if they don't believe in Santa they won't get a present therefore I'm anti-children.
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Post by mrellaguru on Nov 18, 2023 22:39:36 GMT
That’s a good question and it has not been tossed around, it is dogmatic prophecy two thousand years old. And I’ve spent 10 years studying all kinds of religious occurrences. The return of the Messiah is central in Christianity because is based in 1st century BC Jewish Apocalyptism, a Jewish heresy the Jewish officials were trying to stamp out right up to Jesus’ time. Jesus’ cult was not the only of its kind nor the first. But when Rome destroyed Jerusalem and threw out all the Jews, the Jewish Messianism went dormant, and this left the Jesus messianic pagans who embraced these Jewish beliefs and put their own pagan spin onto Jesus. European history has documented the amount of persecution and genocide the Church, from Spain to Holy Mother Russia has conducted against the Jews for centuries. That the rationalism of Enlightenment era calmed down this Medieval superstition and antisemitism did not make it go away. It pops its ugly head up all the time, particularly among the gullible. Listen to Hagee’s own words. It make’s perfect sense if it is studied close enough. This particular sector of the Evangelical movement is heterodox, not orthodox, that is they go beyond the scope of mainstream Christianity theology, particularly in their eschatology, which is the study of the end times. The Church Universal dogma does say Jesus will definitely return someday…it’s right there in the Bible…but it does not allow prophecy about it because “no one knows the Will of the Father.” To say you know or to believe someone else knows is Gnosticism and that’s heresy. Hagee is doing what the Illuminati hired him to do, convincing suckers that they ae going to ride out of here on "the Rapture." And when it appears to happen and these people realize that they haven't gotten off the ground, about 99% of them are going to fall away and become Noahides.
Is Project Blue Beam going to be a fake rapture or a fake alien invasion or both?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 18, 2023 23:13:27 GMT
Hagee is doing what the Illuminati hired him to do, convincing suckers that they ae going to ride out of here on "the Rapture." And when it appears to happen and these people realize that they haven't gotten off the ground, about 99% of them are going to fall away and become Noahides.
Is Project Blue Beam going to be a fake rapture or a fake alien invasion or both?
Could be both.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 18, 2023 23:55:35 GMT
No, it is not for the reasons mentioned above. If a person thinks the Jews should be dispatched if they are in the way of Jesus’ imminent return, and all the “signs and wonders” are say it will be very soon, is that antisemitism? I live in the real world, and here Hagee slavishly supports everything Israel does. His belief Jews will accept the Messiah or something bad is going to happen to them is like me telling my kids if they don't believe in Santa they won't get a present therefore I'm anti-children. Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward.
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Post by ayatollah on Nov 19, 2023 2:26:10 GMT
I live in the real world, and here Hagee slavishly supports everything Israel does. His belief Jews will accept the Messiah or something bad is going to happen to them is like me telling my kids if they don't believe in Santa they won't get a present therefore I'm anti-children. Paul got it right. Hagee's sort aren't pro-Jewish--they thoroughgoingly accept the notion that the Jews murdered their Lord--but they aren't going to flaunt this conviction outside the walls of their churches. In the real world they are the nastiest sort of pragmatists: willing to make common cause with even those whom they feel are the agents of Satan Himself, just so long as it leads to a furtherance of what they see as their divine mission to usher in the Rapture, with Israel as a sort of present-day Jesus theme park and latter-day staging ground for the faceoff of Gog and Magog. The extremely cynical Israeli political hard right is perfectly okey-dokey with this, because those US fundies have a way of managing to get a lot of filthy lucre steered into Israeli defense coffers, due to their all too cozy relationship with the American neocon/hard-right politicians. In their view, everybody wins; Israel gets ongoing monies and blanket protection of US military might (as well as a blind eye to their treatment of their indigenes, the Palestinians), and they get to set the stage for Jesus' big comeback. The only losers in this whore's game of strange bedfellows are those who, in the fundies view, are damned anyway so it makes no nevermind what happens to them in the here and now or afterward. I Hagee is secretly hating Jews inside his church there'd be video in this era of everyone having a camera in their pockets and the ability to put that video out to the world. It's not like it's 1980.
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Post by cts1 on Nov 19, 2023 2:50:55 GMT
He is still alive? He has been shilling this crap since when- the Kennedy Administration?
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