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Post by ant-mac on Jan 3, 2024 17:37:17 GMT
I have provided examples that support such reasoning above. Now it's your turn to answer my question.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 3, 2024 17:44:34 GMT
I have provided examples that support such reasoning above. Now it's your turn to answer my question. There is no support with no evidence.
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 3, 2024 17:48:10 GMT
I have provided examples that support such reasoning above. Now it's your turn to answer my question. There is no support with no evidence. Experts in the field have provided their educated opinions on the matter. That is sufficient evidence to indicate that the matter is still open for debate. If you disagree, then all you have to do is provide your evidence to settle the matter... so put up or shut up.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 3, 2024 18:09:48 GMT
There is no support with no evidence. Experts in the field have provided their educated opinions on the matter. That is sufficient evidence to indicate that the matter is still open for debate. If you disagree, then all you have to do is provide your evidence to settle the matter... so put up or shut up. You are talking about an abstract human ideal called hope. Define hope.
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 3, 2024 18:19:41 GMT
Experts in the field have provided their educated opinions on the matter. That is sufficient evidence to indicate that the matter is still open for debate. If you disagree, then all you have to do is provide your evidence to settle the matter... so put up or shut up. You are talking about an abstract human ideal called hope. Define hope. Stop trying to put it off and answer the question. You can't, can you? Because you haven't got one. You've got nothing and I knew you didn't.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 4, 2024 0:36:52 GMT
You are talking about an abstract human ideal called hope. Define hope. Stop trying to put it off and answer the question. You can't, can you? Because you haven't got one. You've got nothing and I knew you didn't. You claimed animals hope due to research done. I mentioned only humans hope. Animals don’t and can’t hope.
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 4, 2024 1:41:20 GMT
Stop trying to put it off and answer the question. You can't, can you? Because you haven't got one. You've got nothing and I knew you didn't. You claimed animals hope due to research done. I mentioned only humans hope. Animals don’t and can’t hope. I've provided proof of why they might. If you disagree, provide proof that they don't. Well?
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Jan 4, 2024 3:48:26 GMT
Oh good, this thread is still alive.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 4, 2024 5:12:56 GMT
You claimed animals hope due to research done. I mentioned only humans hope. Animals don’t and can’t hope. I've provided proof of why they might. If you disagree, provide proof that they don't. Well? You have given theoretical opinion. That is not factual evidence. Of course animals suffer, we can witness this and we see them care for each other. This is animal instinct though, which humans possess too. Other animal species don't rationalize like humans, because they don't intellectualize and they certainly won't intellectualize something like hope. Do you care for an animals suffering?
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 4, 2024 5:32:59 GMT
I've provided proof of why they might. If you disagree, provide proof that they don't. Well? You have given theoretical opinion. That is not factual evidence. Of course animals suffer, we can witness this and we see them care for each other. This is animal instinct though, which humans possess too. Other animal species don't rationalize like humans, because they don't intellectualize and they certainly won't intellectualize something like hope. Do you care for an animals suffering? Like with most Humans, I expect it would depend upon the individual or individuals. In the past, I have offended people by making it clear I would be prepared to put an animal's life ahead of a Human's... Under certain circumstances.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 4, 2024 5:34:58 GMT
You have given theoretical opinion. That is not factual evidence. Of course animals suffer, we can witness this and we see them care for each other. This is animal instinct though, which humans possess too. Other animal species don't rationalize like humans, because they don't intellectualize and they certainly won't intellectualize something like hope. Do you care for an animals suffering? Like with most Humans, I expect it would depend upon the individual or individuals. In the past, I have offended people by making it clear I would be prepared to put an animal's life ahead of a Human's... Under certain circumstances. People can have a soft spot for animals and prefer them over humans. That is understandable, yet the hypocrisy remains. They still get eaten and are bred/cultivated for slaughter for human consumption.
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 4, 2024 5:42:17 GMT
Like with most Humans, I expect it would depend upon the individual or individuals. In the past, I have offended people by making it clear I would be prepared to put an animal's life ahead of a Human's... Under certain circumstances. People can have a soft spot for animals and prefer them over humans. That is understandable, yet the hypocrisy remains. They still get eaten and are bred/cultivated for slaughter for human consumption. And people can have a feeling of love or patriotism for their country and towards their fellow citizens... But they still won't mourn the loss of every citizen killed in an accident, murdered in a crime or who dies during wartime. Cognitive dissonance occurs when a person's beliefs or behaviour do not complement each other or when they hold two contradictory beliefs... it's part of Human nature.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 4, 2024 7:19:24 GMT
People can have a soft spot for animals and prefer them over humans. That is understandable, yet the hypocrisy remains. They still get eaten and are bred/cultivated for slaughter for human consumption. And people can have a feeling of love or patriotism for their country and towards their fellow citizens... But they still won't mourn the loss of every citizen killed in an accident, murdered in a crime or who dies during wartime. Cognitive dissonance occurs when a person's beliefs or behaviour do not complement each other or when they hold two contradictory beliefs... it's part of Human nature. Why make excuses for why humans behave the way they do towards each other and the environment, when self serving notions take the forefront? I’m human and it’s not in my nature.
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Post by ant-mac on Jan 4, 2024 8:15:10 GMT
And people can have a feeling of love or patriotism for their country and towards their fellow citizens... But they still won't mourn the loss of every citizen killed in an accident, murdered in a crime or who dies during wartime. Cognitive dissonance occurs when a person's beliefs or behaviour do not complement each other or when they hold two contradictory beliefs... it's part of Human nature. Why make excuses for why humans behave the way they do towards each other and the environment, when self serving notions take the forefront? I’m human and it’s not in my nature. It is not an excuse, but an explanation. And when I refer to Human nature, I mean that of the collective, not the individual. Are you really so ignorant and stupid, or are you just seeking further attention?
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Jan 4, 2024 8:25:05 GMT
Why make excuses for why humans behave the way they do towards each other and the environment, when self serving notions take the forefront? I’m human and it’s not in my nature. It is not an excuse, but an explanation. And when I refer to Human nature, I mean that of the collective, not the individual. Are you really so ignorant and stupid, or are you just seeking further attention? A lame one at that. I’m seeking to trigger the lost causes. It worked…. P-)
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