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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Feb 29, 2024 10:19:05 GMT
Didn't this "happen" two weeks ago? Yeah NY was devastated. City vs Cuntry, y’all! Cuntry is right! Damn straight!
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Feb 29, 2024 10:39:11 GMT
I never said that she said it was a hate crime. Boycotts take time to have an effect. If the price of goods are going up in New York then it is having an impact. Right below that line in USA Today is the part about how it’s also a lie that she threatened to or thought about or even believes she has the authority to freeze truckers’ bank accounts. None of that happened. AND the videos and online images are from 2022. There is no trucker boycott of NYC. Prices are unaffected because there’s no boycott. Yea, I haven't seen or heard of anything either. Even if there is a handful of truckers refusing to go to NYC, they've been replaced by someone who will. Probably within the hour of refusal. Emphasis on if.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 29, 2024 11:23:05 GMT
Right below that line in USA Today is the part about how it’s also a lie that she threatened to or thought about or even believes she has the authority to freeze truckers’ bank accounts. None of that happened. AND the videos and online images are from 2022. There is no trucker boycott of NYC. Prices are unaffected because there’s no boycott. Yea, I haven't seen or heard of anything either. Even if there is a handful of truckers refusing to go to NYC, they've been replaced by someone who will. Probably within the hour of refusal. Emphasis on if.Isn't there only a very small percentage of drivers that are truly owner operators. I know the number is something like 500,000 of the 4 million are considered that, but that's including people who have exclusive deals with companies that basically make their employees be owner operators for expenses and insurance. I have done fraud audits for Worker Comp for Trucking companies in the past. It is like the situation with Contractors using "Independent Sub Contractors" vs Employees. They are usually Independent Sub Contractors in name only. So you are looking at 13% max of truckers who would be able to boycott delivering there without losing their job with a trucking company. Of that max 13% I would estimate about half are truly independent. So say 7% to be generous. I am sure a the larger trucking companies who normally wouldn't not like to deal with scraps would love to pick up a block easy enough. Sounds like a great opportunity for Bigger Corporations to swallow up some business from individuals to me. And to make it profitable yeah they will lock those contracts down for a good long while.
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Post by Carl LaFong on Feb 29, 2024 11:25:10 GMT
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Feb 29, 2024 11:54:58 GMT
Yea, I haven't seen or heard of anything either. Even if there is a handful of truckers refusing to go to NYC, they've been replaced by someone who will. Probably within the hour of refusal. Emphasis on if.Isn't there only a very small percentage of drivers that are truly owner operators. I know the number is something like 500,000 of the 4 million are considered that, but that's including people who have exclusive deals with companies that basically make their employees be owner operators for expenses and insurance. I have done fraud audits for Worker Comp for Trucking companies in the past. It is like the situation with Contractors using "Independent Sub Contractors" vs Employees. They are usually Independent Sub Contractors in name only. So you are looking at 13% max of truckers who would be able to boycott delivering there without losing their job with a trucking company. Of that max 13% I would estimate about half are truly independent. So say 7% to be generous. I am sure a the larger trucking companies who normally wouldn't not like to deal with scraps would love to pick up a block easy enough. Sounds like a great opportunity for Bigger Corporations to swallow up some business from individuals to me. And to make it profitable yeah they will lock those contracts down for a good long while. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are either, but yea, there are owner operators, and then there are trucking outfits. To your point? I doubt many of the 'over the road' guys delivering, say, lettuce from California, are stopping 1 by 1 at supermarkets in Manhattan. That doesn't seem very cost effective to me. I'll go out on a limb, and say there are probably distribution centers in NJ, Westchester, and Connecticut. And yes, I'd guess the distributing drivers work for wage (teamsters, maybe) at smaller trucking companies where 'Bob does the Targets every week, Fred has the bodegas, Joe has the restaurants, Joachim has the supermarkets', etc. But I've been out of the Joe six pack taverns for about ten years, so? I don't really know anything new. I can tell you I drove in the city, vans and 24ft box trucks in the early 90's, and it was a frigging nightmare then. I would venture to guess the only 'over the road for hire, owner operators' coming into midtown Manhattan are well compensated.
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Post by Vassaggo on Feb 29, 2024 12:00:28 GMT
Isn't there only a very small percentage of drivers that are truly owner operators. I know the number is something like 500,000 of the 4 million are considered that, but that's including people who have exclusive deals with companies that basically make their employees be owner operators for expenses and insurance. I have done fraud audits for Worker Comp for Trucking companies in the past. It is like the situation with Contractors using "Independent Sub Contractors" vs Employees. They are usually Independent Sub Contractors in name only. So you are looking at 13% max of truckers who would be able to boycott delivering there without losing their job with a trucking company. Of that max 13% I would estimate about half are truly independent. So say 7% to be generous. I am sure a the larger trucking companies who normally wouldn't not like to deal with scraps would love to pick up a block easy enough. Sounds like a great opportunity for Bigger Corporations to swallow up some business from individuals to me. And to make it profitable yeah they will lock those contracts down for a good long while. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are either, but yea, there are owner operators, and then there are trucking outfits. To your point? I doubt many of the 'over the road' guys delivering, say, lettuce from California, are stopping 1 by 1 at supermarkets in Manhattan. That doesn't seem very cost effective to me. I'll go out on a limb, and say there are probably distribution centers in NJ, Westchester, and Connecticut. And yes, I'd guess the distributing drivers work for wage (teamsters, maybe) at smaller trucking companies where 'Bob does the Targets every week, Fred has the bodegas, Joe has the restaurants, Joachim has the supermarkets', etc. But I've been out of the Joe six pack taverns for about ten years, so? I don't really know anything new. I can tell you I drove in the city, vans and 24ft box trucks in the early 90's, and it was a frigging nightmare then. I would venture to guess the only 'over the road for hire, owner operators' coming into midtown Manhattan are well compensated.It has been a minute for me too dealing in that world. Not much dealing either. Maybe 5-10 audits for medium sized trucking companies around a decade ago.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Feb 29, 2024 12:18:52 GMT
I'm not sure what the exact numbers are either, but yea, there are owner operators, and then there are trucking outfits. To your point? I doubt many of the 'over the road' guys delivering, say, lettuce from California, are stopping 1 by 1 at supermarkets in Manhattan. That doesn't seem very cost effective to me. I'll go out on a limb, and say there are probably distribution centers in NJ, Westchester, and Connecticut. And yes, I'd guess the distributing drivers work for wage (teamsters, maybe) at smaller trucking companies where 'Bob does the Targets every week, Fred has the bodegas, Joe has the restaurants, Joachim has the supermarkets', etc. But I've been out of the Joe six pack taverns for about ten years, so? I don't really know anything new. I can tell you I drove in the city, vans and 24ft box trucks in the early 90's, and it was a frigging nightmare then. I would venture to guess the only 'over the road for hire, owner operators' coming into midtown Manhattan are well compensated.It has been a minute for me too dealing in that world. Not much dealing either. Maybe 5-10 audits for medium sized trucking companies around a decade ago. Yea, me too. Very briefly, I dispatched for a waste disposal trucking company, also drove for a fairly big moving company, but it was a lifetime ago. My landlord from 2000 to 2011 was an owner operator of a small outfit, his son and maybe 3 drivers/rigs? They'd do everything, local NYC construction demos to 'over the road to Cali and back', wherever the money was. He always hinted he had mob connections, but I never pressed him. Figured I was better off not knowing. Very nice fella, I miss him.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Feb 29, 2024 12:25:00 GMT
Fucking moronic.
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Post by kiwi on Feb 29, 2024 12:26:49 GMT
Isn't there only a very small percentage of drivers that are truly owner operators. I know the number is something like 500,000 of the 4 million are considered that, but that's including people who have exclusive deals with companies that basically make their employees be owner operators for expenses and insurance. I have done fraud audits for Worker Comp for Trucking companies in the past. It is like the situation with Contractors using "Independent Sub Contractors" vs Employees. They are usually Independent Sub Contractors in name only. So you are looking at 13% max of truckers who would be able to boycott delivering there without losing their job with a trucking company. Of that max 13% I would estimate about half are truly independent. So say 7% to be generous. I am sure a the larger trucking companies who normally wouldn't not like to deal with scraps would love to pick up a block easy enough. Sounds like a great opportunity for Bigger Corporations to swallow up some business from individuals to me. And to make it profitable yeah they will lock those contracts down for a good long while. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are either, but yea, there are owner operators, and then there are trucking outfits. To your point? I doubt many of the 'over the road' guys delivering, say, lettuce from California, are stopping 1 by 1 at supermarkets in Manhattan. That doesn't seem very cost effective to me. I'll go out on a limb, and say there are probably distribution centers in NJ, Westchester, and Connecticut. And yes, I'd guess the distributing drivers work for wage (teamsters, maybe) at smaller trucking companies where 'Bob does the Targets every week, Fred has the bodegas, Joe has the restaurants, Joachim has the supermarkets', etc. But I've been out of the Joe six pack taverns for about ten years, so? I don't really know anything new. I can tell you I drove in the city, vans and 24ft box trucks in the early 90's, and it was a frigging nightmare then. I would venture to guess the only 'over the road for hire, owner operators' coming into midtown Manhattan are well compensated.You were brave!
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Feb 29, 2024 13:06:50 GMT
I'm not sure what the exact numbers are either, but yea, there are owner operators, and then there are trucking outfits. To your point? I doubt many of the 'over the road' guys delivering, say, lettuce from California, are stopping 1 by 1 at supermarkets in Manhattan. That doesn't seem very cost effective to me. I'll go out on a limb, and say there are probably distribution centers in NJ, Westchester, and Connecticut. And yes, I'd guess the distributing drivers work for wage (teamsters, maybe) at smaller trucking companies where 'Bob does the Targets every week, Fred has the bodegas, Joe has the restaurants, Joachim has the supermarkets', etc. But I've been out of the Joe six pack taverns for about ten years, so? I don't really know anything new. I can tell you I drove in the city, vans and 24ft box trucks in the early 90's, and it was a frigging nightmare then. I would venture to guess the only 'over the road for hire, owner operators' coming into midtown Manhattan are well compensated.You were brave! Ha! Or hungry, lol. I would say it's a lot harder now. Back then, you could still speed up and down the Avenues and maybe make 15-20 lights. Now it's 25 MPH, camera/radar enforced. Some good memories: Jamaican dude Elvis and I were two of the bosses favs. He'd give us the after hours marquee gigs: delivering and putting together grand pianos and exotic Eastern wall units for some zillionaire on 65th and Broadway, big tips, working like gentlemen. But yea, it was mostly trying to fit a 24ft truck in a 3lb bag, hoping like hell the cabbie didn't hit you, or cop didn't write a ticket. And, no, the owner didn't pay for tickets. I got my only speeder with those guys, a 57 in a 50, not a quarter mile after getting on the Clearview. To this day, I can't believe the guy wrote that ticket.
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Post by kiwi on Feb 29, 2024 13:17:25 GMT
Ha! Or hungry, lol. I would say it's a lot harder now. Back then, you could still speed up and down the Avenues and maybe make 15-20 lights. Now it's 25 MPH, camera/radar enforced. Some good memories: Jamaican dude Elvis and I were two of the bosses favs. He'd give us the after hours marquee gigs: delivering and putting together grand pianos and exotic Eastern wall units for some zillionaire on 65th and Broadway, big tips, working like gentlemen. But yea, it was mostly trying to fit a 24ft truck in a 3lb bag, hoping like hell the cabbie didn't hit you, or cop didn't write a ticket. And, no, the owner didn't pay for tickets. I got my only speeder with those guys, a 57 in a 50, not a quarter mile after getting on the Clearview. To this day, I can't believe the guy wrote that ticket. Sounds like it would make a great movie. :) Wasn't this also the era of in-line skating? I remember the daredevils in the middle of the streets and avenues. Dodging them must've been tricky, too.
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Post by phludowin on Feb 29, 2024 13:17:52 GMT
The same non-story again? Honestly, the idiocy of right-wingers is not even amusing at this level.
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Post by Lux on Feb 29, 2024 13:27:06 GMT
The same non-story again? Honestly, the idiocy of right-wingers is not even amusing at this level. That's like judging all left wingers as idiots based on the rantings of PaulsLaugh or you.
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Feb 29, 2024 13:33:01 GMT
Yet a quick glance at the Times, Daily News, and Post reveal no headlines about trucks blocking the city.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Feb 29, 2024 13:35:06 GMT
Ha! Or hungry, lol. I would say it's a lot harder now. Back then, you could still speed up and down the Avenues and maybe make 15-20 lights. Now it's 25 MPH, camera/radar enforced. Some good memories: Jamaican dude Elvis and I were two of the bosses favs. He'd give us the after hours marquee gigs: delivering and putting together grand pianos and exotic Eastern wall units for some zillionaire on 65th and Broadway, big tips, working like gentlemen. But yea, it was mostly trying to fit a 24ft truck in a 3lb bag, hoping like hell the cabbie didn't hit you, or cop didn't write a ticket. And, no, the owner didn't pay for tickets. I got my only speeder with those guys, a 57 in a 50, not a quarter mile after getting on the Clearview. To this day, I can't believe the guy wrote that ticket. Sounds like it would make a great movie. :) Wasn't this also the era of in-line skating? I remember the daredevils in the middle of the streets and avenues. Dodging them must've been tricky, too. ....or a book, lol. Met a lot of famous people in those buildings, but even moreso? Anonymous people who could buy and sell the movie stars like matchsticks. Ya know, Rudi and Disney were moving in during those days. Things were changing, not that I was paying much attention. I recently saw Scorsese's "Taxi Driver" for the first time in quite awhile. Reminded me of how parts of Manhattan which are now tourist traps, were like the Wild West back then.
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