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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 13, 2024 0:09:51 GMT
No, its clearly not an issue since nothing happened in the five years that have passed since it happened. And I fail to see how you think NOT reporting this to the cops is a waste of tax money, while the police hunting mean words from half a decade ago is totally not wasting time and money? Diane Abbott is one of if not the dumbest politician alive and she should have dealt with the problem five years ago, but if she wants to report the issue now then that's her right as a taxpayer, the police can say fuck off if they want. Mean words to a black person is very different to what you think mean words are. If she knew about it 5 years ago and is only now getting upset, shortly before an election, she can fuck off. She doesn't care and is lying. What he said shouldn't be a crime. No harm was done, there was no victim. And no they are not.
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 0:16:14 GMT
Diane Abbott is one of if not the dumbest politician alive and she should have dealt with the problem five years ago, but if she wants to report the issue now then that's her right as a taxpayer, the police can say fuck off if they want. Mean words to a black person is very different to what you think mean words are. If she knew about it 5 years ago and is only now getting upset, shortly before an election, she can fuck off. She doesn't care and is lying. What he said shouldn't be a crime. No harm was done, there was no victim. And no they are not. So if a black person said to you that you make him hate all white people and that you should be shot in the head you'd conceal that from the police because what? What are they paid to do? You want to give them unearned annual leave too? Don't be stupid. Have already made clear she was stupid for revisiting something five years ago that didn't bother her, don't know how many times that can be made clear to you.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 13, 2024 0:19:26 GMT
If she knew about it 5 years ago and is only now getting upset, shortly before an election, she can fuck off. She doesn't care and is lying. What he said shouldn't be a crime. No harm was done, there was no victim. And no they are not. So if a black person said to you that you make him hate all white people and that you should be shot in the head you'd conceal that from the police because what? What are they paid to do? You want to give them unearned annual leave too? Don't be stupid. Have already made clear she was stupid for revisiting something five years ago that didn't bother her, don't know how many times that can be made clear to you. Were I a politician and I found out someone said I should be shot five years ago, I wouldn't give a shit. If they apologised and said they didn't mean it, I wouldn't give a shit. I certainly wouldn't go to the police over it and I give not one solitary shit if people hate me because I'm a white man. You can be a massive baby all you like, but most of us are grown ups.
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 0:28:06 GMT
I feel some real next level whataboutery, UK(RIP)-style, incoming shortly. I actually consider the transparent racism and the implicit threat of violence to be two separate things, which should be dealt with separately. It's not often the likes of Kwarteng and Badenoch get something right, so credit where it's due. Starmer could be firmer, but let's face it he's a blancmange, so we can't expect anything else. You don't wait five years to report implicit threats of violence don't be silly.
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 0:30:48 GMT
So if a black person said to you that you make him hate all white people and that you should be shot in the head you'd conceal that from the police because what? What are they paid to do? You want to give them unearned annual leave too? Don't be stupid. Have already made clear she was stupid for revisiting something five years ago that didn't bother her, don't know how many times that can be made clear to you. Were I a politician and I found out someone said I should be shot five years ago, I wouldn't give a shit. If they apologised and said they didn't mean it, I wouldn't give a shit. I certainly wouldn't go to the police over it and I give not one solitary shit if people hate me because I'm a white man. You can be a massive baby all you like, but most of us are grown ups. Two politicians have also been killed for doing what you're recommending by the way. They ignored it and got gutted to death.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 13, 2024 0:33:36 GMT
Were I a politician and I found out someone said I should be shot five years ago, I wouldn't give a shit. If they apologised and said they didn't mean it, I wouldn't give a shit. I certainly wouldn't go to the police over it and I give not one solitary shit if people hate me because I'm a white man. You can be a massive baby all you like, but most of us are grown ups. Two politicians have also been killed for doing what you're recommending by the way. They ignored it and got gutted to death. Thats absolute and total bullshit. Jo Cox was murdered by a mentalist and David Amiss by an Islamic extremist. Are you saying these comments are comparable? lol And btw, they happened five years ago, not sure if you remembered that.
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 0:37:23 GMT
Two politicians have also been killed for doing what you're recommending by the way. They ignored it and got gutted to death. Thats absolute and total bullshit. Jo Cox was murdered by a mentalist and David Amiss by an Islamic extremist. Are you saying these comments are comparable? lol And btw, they happened five years ago, not sure if you remembered that. Are they comparable? Because they were whispering sweet nothings to them before killing them weren't they? You need to ditch the strong northerner act and embrace reality. Yes, some threats are harmless but others aren't. You only have one life.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 13, 2024 0:49:31 GMT
Thats absolute and total bullshit. Jo Cox was murdered by a mentalist and David Amiss by an Islamic extremist. Are you saying these comments are comparable? lol And btw, they happened five years ago, not sure if you remembered that. Are they comparable? Because they were whispering sweet nothings to them before killing them weren't they? You need to ditch the strong northerner act and embrace reality. Yes, some threats are harmless but others aren't. You only have one life. Theres no act. You are being a hysterical girl "She should be shot" is not a threat. Not only is it not a threat, it was said in private five years ago. By any and all logic, its a nothing. Its not even remotely credible as a serious threat to life I said on here the other day that a sex offender should be boiled alive. Is that a credible threat? Do the police need to be involved? Do you think I am off to hunt that bloke down as we speak?
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 1:00:01 GMT
Are they comparable? Because they were whispering sweet nothings to them before killing them weren't they? You need to ditch the strong northerner act and embrace reality. Yes, some threats are harmless but others aren't. You only have one life. Theres no act. You are being a hysterical girl "She should be shot" is not a threat. Not only is it not a threat, it was said in private five years ago. By any and all logic, its a nothing. Its not even remotely credible as a serious threat to life I said on here the other day that a sex offender should be boiled alive. Is that a credible threat? Do the police need to be involved? Do you think I am off to hunt that bloke down as we speak? You're comparing what you say to what a billionaire donor of the Conservative party says? He has influence you don't. Two completely different worlds. No one takes you seriously but plenty take Frank Hester seriously instead. Think you're being the delusional girl in the conversation.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 13, 2024 1:02:29 GMT
Theres no act. You are being a hysterical girl "She should be shot" is not a threat. Not only is it not a threat, it was said in private five years ago. By any and all logic, its a nothing. Its not even remotely credible as a serious threat to life I said on here the other day that a sex offender should be boiled alive. Is that a credible threat? Do the police need to be involved? Do you think I am off to hunt that bloke down as we speak? You're comparing what you say to what a billionaire donor of the Conservative party says? He has influence you don't. Two completely different worlds. No one takes you seriously but plenty take Frank Hester seriously instead. Think you're being the delusional girl in the conversation. lol So a billionaire needs to be investigated any time he says something somebody might think is a threat, even though it isn't? Did he put it on social media? Say it in a TV interview? No. An it wasn't a threat, but its nice that you think the law shouldn't apply to people equally. Tell us, were the two MPs killed, done in by billionaires?
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Post by tommcclarey on Mar 13, 2024 4:27:52 GMT
If these comments were said in a private meeting, then I don't think a criminal offence has actually happened unless one of the people in the meeting chooses to complain.
Nevertheless he is an odious racist rat.
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 13, 2024 14:12:08 GMT
For those who say that it's 5 years ago and he did apologize Tory donor accused of racist Diane Abbott remarks www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68539981Ehm, if I take that exactly as it is written here, I can look at it as a sort of 'overspecific dementi' (don't know whether this word is known in English). He did NOT apologize for having asked for her elimination! One idiot might re-read it as 'so Abbott deserved it for other reasons' So yes, the main statements were 5 years ago and not in public but his potentially misleading sorry statement is from now - and in the public discourse! By the way, knowing a bit more about Hester now - besides from the momentary scandal - let me say just this: he is a very dubious person!
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Post by Lux on Mar 13, 2024 14:25:06 GMT
For those who say that it's 5 years ago and he did apologize Tory donor accused of racist Diane Abbott remarks www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68539981Ehm, if I take that exactly as it is written here, I can look at it as a sort of 'overspecific dementi' (don't know whether this word is known in English). He did NOT apologize for having asked for her elimination! One idiot might read read it as 'so Abbott deserved it for other reasons' So yes, the main statements were 5 years ago and not in public but his potentially misleading sorry statement is from now - and in the public discourse! By the way, knowing a bit more about Hester now - besides from the momentary scandal - let me say just this: he is a very dubious person! Nobbi thinks a Brit is a dubious person. Shocker.
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Mar 13, 2024 14:34:13 GMT
... Nobbi thinks a Brit is a dubious person. Shocker. oh, I could go on with René Benko, Markus Braun, Jan Marsalek, Sebastian Kurz, Strache, ... but there should be more coverage in Anglosaxon media, I won't do all the translation work.
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Post by tickingmask on Mar 13, 2024 17:29:02 GMT
By the way, knowing a bit more about Hester now - besides from the momentary scandal - let me say just this: he is a very dubious person! Does he make you want to hate all men of ethnic Irish origin? Or just the ones who happen to be Tory donors? I mean, that's the real story here, isn't it? If it had been just some normal bloke who blurted out some 'ironic' tasteless comment about some politician five years ago, nobody would have cared. It's only because this guy happened to donate ten million quid to the Tory party that this story is being pushed for all its worth to try and manipulate our collected sense of wounded feelings and righteous indignation. Given the manner in which the various partygate goings on were steadily drip-fed into the public consciousness over the course of several months in order to manipulate our sense of outrage to its maximum possible extent, It wouldn't surprise me in the least if it turned out that The Graun had sat on this story for a while, waiting for a suitable opportunity to release it. How many more non-stories about scandalous things that might have been said in private years ago by people vaguely associated with the Tory party can we expect to crop up before the general election, I wonder?
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