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Post by jeffersoncody on Apr 10, 2024 22:50:00 GMT
You won't be able to forgive yourself if you don't see AMERICAN FICTION, though, so I'll look forward to your review of it. PS. How many versions of A STAR IS BORN have you seen Mike? I have every intension of seeing American Fiction at some point down the line. The next 2023 movie I want to see is "Poor Things" and will get to see it later this month. The only A Star Is Born I have seen all the way through is the 1937 Gaynor/March version. I am familiar with the famous Oscar night clip from the Garland/Mason. I simply wasn't interested in Streisand or Lady Gaga. The theme of the put-upon ego-battered male whose wife exceeds his own accomplishments has always turned me off no matter how it is updated or revised. Suck up, brother, and give your wife all your support. Streisand blows it, Lady Gaga soars.
Hell, Sam Elliott's Oscar nominated "legacy" supporting turn is worth the price of admission alone Mike. Listen carefully to what Sam Elliott's character says about music towards the end of this clip - "it's the same story told over and over, forever". Same thing applies to books and movies and scripts, hell Shakespeare nailed the story (ies) to the mast way back when, and its all been imitations since then. Which isn't a bad thing; it's how the story is told, how the music is played, and the characters, always the characters, and their infinite variations - subtle or broad, variations on a theme, the shades of grey one brings to timeworn tales, the atmosphere, the mood, the era, etc etc.
After 50 years, Sam Elliott has his moment
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Post by mikef6 on Apr 12, 2024 19:16:11 GMT
I have every intension of seeing American Fiction at some point down the line. The next 2023 movie I want to see is "Poor Things" and will get to see it later this month. The only A Star Is Born I have seen all the way through is the 1937 Gaynor/March version. I am familiar with the famous Oscar night clip from the Garland/Mason. I simply wasn't interested in Streisand or Lady Gaga. The theme of the put-upon ego-battered male whose wife exceeds his own accomplishments has always turned me off no matter how it is updated or revised. Suck up, brother, and give your wife all your support. Streisand blows it, Lady Gaga soars.
Hell, Sam Elliott's Oscar nominated "legacy" supporting turn is worth the price of admission alone Mike. Listen carefully to what Sam Elliott's character says about music towards the end of this clip - "it's the same story told over and over, forever". Same thing applies to books and movies and scripts, hell Shakespeare nailed the story (ies) to the mast way back when, and its all been imitations since then. Which isn't a bad thing; it's how the story is told, how the music is played, and the characters, always the characters, and their infinite variations - subtle or broad, variations on a theme, the shades of grey one brings to timeworn tales, the atmosphere, the mood, the era, etc etc.
After 50 years, Sam Elliott has his moment
I agree entirely with what you say about variations on stories. It is sometimes heard that there are only - what? - 10 basic stories? But I don't like this particular story. A man who goes all alcoholic and suicidal because his wife is more successful than he, is not a man at all. I don't find anything tragic, sad, or even inspirational with it, not even if the performances are good (and I like both Cooper and Lada GaGa as actors). But Hollywood - to their peril - have never asked me to consult, so keep making the same movie again and again.
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