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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 12:20:02 GMT
Last week we reported on the 7 aid workers who were killed by an Israeli airstrike in Gaza. Since then, the IDF have released their official investigative report findings. As a result, they dismissed several high ranking officers who they deemed did not follow official IDF protocol. However, the question remains: who was really at fault for these aid workers who were killed? Was Hamas using them as human shields? Were the World Central Kitchen workers embedded with Hamas, like the photographers were on October 7th? Or did Hamas simply commandeer their vehicle, and force them to drive with them under gun point. Either way, it’s seems clear that the blame lies squarely elsewhere than Israel.
You are doing a great job promulgating Israeli propaganda. Israel godlike. Hamas evil monsters. This is closer to the truth than you'll be as a Hamas-worshiper.
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on Apr 11, 2024 12:21:47 GMT
Last week we reported on the 7 aid workers who were killed by an Israeli airstrike in Gaza. Since then, the IDF have released their official investigative report findings. As a result, they dismissed several high ranking officers who they deemed did not follow official IDF protocol. However, the question remains: who was really at fault for these aid workers who were killed? Was Hamas using them as human shields? Were the World Central Kitchen workers embedded with Hamas, like the photographers were on October 7th? Or did Hamas simply commandeer their vehicle, and force them to drive with them under gun point. Either way, it’s seems clear that the blame lies squarely elsewhere than Israel.
You are doing a great job promulgating Israeli propaganda. Israel godlike. Hamas evil monsters. Every possible explanation except the most likely ones. Note that Israel has sacked 2 commanders. That neither happens in war, nor by IDF ever. IDF has a tradition of semiindependent command structure. Individual helicopter missile teams either think with no evidence (just like jefferson) that aid convoys must be filled with Hamas so no need to check. Just as likely, the UDF troop is supporting the hostage families who attempt to prevent aid conviys from entering Gaza, so to help them, aid workers are targeted for murder. Israel is not godlike, but Hamas are monsters. They don't care how many of their own civilians die.
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 12:22:14 GMT
Israel made it clear that the commanders in this situation did not break the law.
They simply didn't go as far as the IDF wishes when it comes to obsessing over trying to get civilians out of the way in the Gaza wars.
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 12:24:10 GMT
You are doing a great job promulgating Israeli propaganda. Israel godlike. Hamas evil monsters. Every possible explanation except the most likely ones. Note that Israel has sacked 2 commanders. That neither happens in war, nor by IDF ever. IDF has a tradition of semiindependent command structure. Individual helicopter missile teams either think with no evidence (just like jefferson) that aid convoys must be filled with Hamas so no need to check. Just as likely, the UDF troop is supporting the hostage families who attempt to prevent aid conviys from entering Gaza, so to help them, aid workers are targeted for murder. Israel is not godlike, but Hamas are monsters. They don't care how many of their own civilians die. The top Hamas leader celebrated the deaths of 3 sons and 4 grandchildren yesterday.
If they don't give a shit if their own children die, the rest of the Gazans are absolutely expendable.
In fact, it's extremely desirable to Hamas that some or many of them die.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Apr 11, 2024 12:27:34 GMT
Presumption of guilt for the Jewish state - again. ^^^
For Netanyahu and the IDF.
He told Qatar to keep on funding Hamas just weeks before October 7th.
Why give him a pass for such ridiculous negligence?
Wasn’t that because they sort of had a detente going between the two sides until Hamas blew it all up?
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Post by 🐈⬛ Molly 🐈⬛ (FU) on Apr 11, 2024 12:29:13 GMT
Th organization running that food kitchen has been around delivering food to those in need for awhile. The theory that sounds most reasonable is Vietnam They are at a point where some of the fighters are waging the battle as they see FIL which is how those relief workers were slain. You had American soldiers slaughtering innocent villagers because everyone was the enemy Presumption of guilt for the Jewish state - again. ^^^
Israel isn't just shooting everybody. IDF soldiers die because of the precautions that Israel takes to warn civilians about upcoming combat.
If you look at the actual facts about WCK, Hamas terrorists were visible on the WCK vehicle when they first entered Gaza.
This was the first thing that came to the IDF's attention about the WCK that night.
How would you like it if your kid was presumed guilty by default?
It sounds like the IDF presumed guilt to the 7 aid workers. You talk a lot about double standards…. But seem to ignore it when those double standards are applied favorable for Israel.
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 12:29:35 GMT
For Netanyahu and the IDF.
He told Qatar to keep on funding Hamas just weeks before October 7th.
Why give him a pass for such ridiculous negligence?
Wasn’t that because they sort of had a detente going between the two sides until Hamas blew it all up? Yes. Israel always offered them quiet in exchange for quiet. Hamas was being quiet.
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Post by winstonwolfe on Apr 11, 2024 13:25:48 GMT
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 13:29:38 GMT
America investigated itself after killing an aid worker and 7 children with him in Afghanistan. America decided that no personal responsibility was indicated.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 11, 2024 13:31:33 GMT
Someone is to blame and it’s most definitely not my side-ism.
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 13:33:35 GMT
Hamas is to blame for starting this senseless war via the murders and mutilations of over 1000 Jews.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 11, 2024 13:43:35 GMT
For Netanyahu and the IDF.
He told Qatar to keep on funding Hamas just weeks before October 7th.
Why give him a pass for such ridiculous negligence?
Wasn’t that because they sort of had a detente going between the two sides until Hamas blew it all up? Netanyahu propped up Hamas to split the leadership from the West Bank and Gaza and it helped his own goal of preventing a Palestinian state. www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
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Post by SciFive on Apr 11, 2024 13:48:24 GMT
Israel’s left wing press tends to be like most of America’s: Fucked in the head. Israel stops the two state solution by refusing the Arabs’ terms. This has been in full play since 2002 over the course of FIVE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTERS.
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Apr 11, 2024 14:10:34 GMT
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Apr 11, 2024 14:14:14 GMT
Israel made it clear that the commanders in this situation did not break the law.
They simply didn't go as far as the IDF wishes when it comes to obsessing over trying to get civilians out of the way in the Gaza wars.
Like firing a Hellfire missile through the roof of a clearly marked and scheduled aid vehicle because Hamas might be it it? Sure, that reasoning allows IDF to shoot up schools and hospitals just in case a Hamas person is near.
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