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Post by Swimm on Apr 24, 2024 13:26:50 GMT
So then Palestine created the conditions for that to happen? Correct? Wrong. Dig deeper. Ergo "Palestine did nothing wrong Its all Israel's fault" Checkmate. Thanks for playing.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 24, 2024 13:27:28 GMT
Yes but why have we shifted and now they're the lowest of the low? I remember people objecting to the protests in 2020 on Covid grounds and the responses being "These protests are so important the Covid rules take a backseat". What could it be? I just read on AP news that the invasion of Rafah is coming soon and Bibi is defiant that it will happen no matter what Biden or Blinken say. this has the potential to be just like 2020…remember Trump lost some votes because he didn’t do enough to stop the violence that summer. this could all be engineered by right wing organizations to do the same thing to Biden. The right in the US is heavily pro-Israel. They don't like Biden but they generally won't encourage protests of Israel or US aid to that country no matter what. They'd really have to twist themselves on that one.
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Post by Boricanator on Apr 24, 2024 13:29:34 GMT
Ergo "Palestine did nothing wrong Its all Israel's fault" Checkmate. Thanks for playing. Nope. You engaged in a strawman. You lost. Better luck next time.
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Post by Boricanator on Apr 24, 2024 13:31:04 GMT
I just read on AP news that the invasion of Rafah is coming soon and Bibi is defiant that it will happen no matter what Biden or Blinken say. this has the potential to be just like 2020…remember Trump lost some votes because he didn’t do enough to stop the violence that summer. this could all be engineered by right wing organizations to do the same thing to Biden. The right in the US is heavily pro-Israel. They don't like Biden but they generally won't encourage protests of Israel or US aid to that country no matter what. They'd really have to twist themselves on that one. They don’t have to directly encourage it. Just do it in a way that you are blameless and cost Biden his re-election.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Apr 24, 2024 13:31:20 GMT
Is this the stage where they start setting fires and destroying shit in the name of peace?
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Apr 24, 2024 13:35:06 GMT
It is similar to Vietnam, but it is not dumb. We are sponsoring terrorism and genocide in the region. During it’s time, people condemned the protests in Vietnam. Now, history has judged them to be on the correct side. Most likely, the same will happen with these protests. Vietnam protests were fucking dumb too. The North invaded the South. You know, kinda like how Hamas attacked Israel? The comparisons to the Vietnam War protests lack one important commonality: there are no U.S. troops fighting in Gaza.
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Post by Swimm on Apr 24, 2024 13:40:23 GMT
Ergo "Palestine did nothing wrong Its all Israel's fault" Checkmate. Thanks for playing. Nope. You engaged in a strawman. You lost. Better luck next time. You already admitted its Israel's fault and not Palestine's. I even tried to give you an easy out where you could have just said both led to the conditions. But you doubled down on all Israel's fault as you just admitted to through my line of questioning
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Post by Boricanator on Apr 24, 2024 13:43:50 GMT
Nope. You engaged in a strawman. You lost. Better luck next time. You already admitted its Israel's fault and not Palestine's. I even tried to give you an easy out where you could have just said both led to the conditions. But you doubled down on all Israel's fault as you just admitted to through my line of questioning Still doesn’t get it. Keep trying.
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Apr 24, 2024 13:44:53 GMT
Vietnam was divided into North and South by foreigners to the country, not by the people of Vietnam, and Ho Chi Minh would have won the popular vote of the entire nation had the United States not prevented a national election from being held.
The North's unification of the country was justified, and they won. Choke on it. Not to mention they have adopted the Chinese model of capitalism and their economy is doing very well. Western democracy does not work with poverty stricken third world nations with massive corruption….some children need strong parents to grow and thrive. Western democracy may not even work in parts of Eastern Europe. It’s naive of us to believe our culture and historical journeys can be compatible with every culture. It’s why I find some of these anti-Israel people so naive to think a one state solution wouldn’t lead to a bloodbath worse than any we’ve seen in the region. It would have to be a two state but the question is could the Palestinians run a state that isn’t essentially another terror base like what Gaza is?
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Post by Roxy on Apr 24, 2024 13:46:16 GMT
Feels like Vietnam only dumber. Where are the big boobed hippy chicks ?
Apparently it’s like Vietnam protests but dumber and not as fun to look at.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 24, 2024 13:46:32 GMT
The right in the US is heavily pro-Israel. They don't like Biden but they generally won't encourage protests of Israel or US aid to that country no matter what. They'd really have to twist themselves on that one. They don’t have to directly encourage it. Just do it in a way that you are blameless and cost Biden his re-election. Use the "weak Biden" narrative? (This wouldn't be happening if Trump were president)?
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Post by ofunknownorigins on Apr 24, 2024 13:47:28 GMT
Didn't watch Dune cause white people ^ I didn’t watch because it looks like shit and the first five minutes were boring. It does have a lot of excellent action set pieces. Denis V. is an arthouse director who can create quite the action adventure epics. So it’s a merging of his arthouse sensibilities with spectacular Hollywood set pieces.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 24, 2024 13:47:29 GMT
Is this the stage where they start setting fires and destroying shit in the name of peace? You guys loved this shit 4 years ago when the protestors hated Trump and white people.
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Post by Boricanator on Apr 24, 2024 13:50:55 GMT
Vietnam protests were fucking dumb too. The North invaded the South. You know, kinda like how Hamas attacked Israel? The comparisons to the Vietnam War protests lack one important commonality: there are no U.S. troops fighting in Gaza. Which makes these protests more self-less. Back then we had the draft. So, even people who weren’t poor were fighting. A lot of the protests came down to that. The current protests is because we don’t want our money to be used to destroy a people.
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Post by dlancer on Apr 24, 2024 13:52:01 GMT
Ergo "Palestine did nothing wrong Its all Israel's fault" Checkmate. Thanks for playing.
There isn't a Palestine.
Checkmate. Thanks for playing.
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