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Post by Lux on Apr 24, 2024 23:23:48 GMT
I don't hate him. I just believe he didn’t do a very good job as POTUS, and I don't believe he would do better if elected again. And in my opinion believing that it's ok to grab women by the pussy is worse than believing that women can have penises. If you don't know who can have a pussy then you don't know who's grabbing what?
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Post by pathfinder on Apr 24, 2024 23:29:46 GMT
He’s stupid, lazy, corrupt, incompetent, vengeful and petty. Not fit to be a dog catcher, let alone leader of the fee world. Well what's your excuse for not having a job? Mine. I'm visually impaired and 68 years old.
Now what's yours?
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Post by mikemonger on Apr 24, 2024 23:35:55 GMT
There must be a valid reason to hate on someone that has hurt you so badly. Well,,if you're from the NY/NJ area like I am, you're well acquainted with just how badly he screwed a lot of small investors over in Atlantic City.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Apr 24, 2024 23:46:42 GMT
There must be a valid reason to hate on someone that has hurt you so badly. Well,,if you're from the NY/NJ area like I am, you're well acquainted with just how badly he screwed a lot of small investors over in Atlantic City. Trump must be to blame for every screwed up investments, aye!
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Post by Carl LaFong on Apr 25, 2024 1:29:10 GMT
He’s stupid, lazy, corrupt, incompetent, vengeful and petty. Not fit to be a dog catcher, let alone leader of the fee world. Well what's your excuse for not having a job? Mine. I'm visually impaired and 68 years old.
Now what's yours?
WTF has that got to do with the question? Anyway, none of your beeswax.
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Post by mikemonger on Apr 25, 2024 1:39:40 GMT
Well,,if you're from the NY/NJ area like I am, you're well acquainted with just how badly he screwed a lot of small investors over in Atlantic City. Trump must be to blame for every screwed up investments, aye! Not at all. But he IS to blame for being entrusted with the administration of a publically held communal fund and then proceeding to have it purchase his failing businesses at several times the market value. You...should probably avoid trying to talk about stuff you clearly have absolutely no knowledge of. Because there's a REASON why Trump is one of the rare politicians that has next to no support in his home stomping grounds.
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Post by kiwi on Apr 25, 2024 1:49:44 GMT
I'm not British but I think this assessment is, for the most part, correct, though Trump is a spoiled, rich boy. MUCH more can be said, but it's been said before.
Someone asked “Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?”
Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:
A few things spring to mind;
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of shit. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W. look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’ I f being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
Thank you Nate White, I hope you find this piece and share your handle, so I can tag you accordingly. Cheers! Michael de Groot
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 25, 2024 1:52:52 GMT
Why should I love or like someone who hates me?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 25, 2024 1:54:44 GMT
Truth is a politicians kryptonite and yet we are supposed to look at those holding high office as upstanding and righteous servants of the state. If I lived in the US, I wouldn’t vote for Biden or Trump, I probs wouldn’t vote at all. It is compulsory in Oz. It just amuses me how Trump riles up those that think the Dems are working in their best interests. Both parties are nothing more than corporate entities in the US. Choosing between them is like choosing between Coke and Pepsi, with even fewer nutrients. That’s capitalism. You do like your paycheck?
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Apr 25, 2024 1:56:16 GMT
The way I see it. The dems, the establishment republicans and the Deep State view him as a threat to their criminal enterprises. Their government connections is how these people get very rich. You are a joke.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Apr 25, 2024 3:56:05 GMT
Trump must be to blame for every screwed up investments, aye! Not at all. But he IS to blame for being entrusted with the administration of a publically held communal fund and then proceeding to have it purchase his failing businesses at several times the market value. You...should probably avoid trying to talk about stuff you clearly have absolutely no knowledge of. Because there's a REASON why Trump is one of the rare politicians that has next to no support in his home stomping grounds. Sounds like the Libs that are entrusted with tax payers state funds and siphon it off overseas, marked as foreign aid. Who the frick are you kidding, you make shit up just like all lefties do. The only support Biden is getting, is an engineered corporate one to keep the political libtards down and confused.
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Post by san926f on Apr 25, 2024 6:00:01 GMT
I don't hate him. I think he showed himself to be a terrible leader in his first term. He's only interested in being POTUS to the people who love him. His lies have changed the landscape of the country, and I don't know if we'll ever come back from it. And the worst part is I don't think he even gets that. It's never occurred to him because he only worries his owm ego and legacy. I don't hate him, I hate what the country has become since his era.
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Post by phludowin on Apr 25, 2024 6:15:39 GMT
I don't hate him. I just believe he didn’t do a very good job as POTUS, and I don't believe he would do better if elected again. And in my opinion believing that it's ok to grab women by the pussy is worse than believing that women can have penises. If you don't know who can have a pussy then you don't know who's grabbing what? Speak for yourself. I know who can have a penis or a pussy.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on Apr 25, 2024 6:31:50 GMT
Cuz.
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Post by Vassaggo on Apr 25, 2024 6:51:41 GMT
I don't hate him. I think he showed himself to be a terrible leader in his first term. He's only interested in being POTUS to the people who love him. His lies have changed the landscape of the country, and I don't know if we'll ever come back from it. And the worst part is I don't think he even gets that. It's never occurred to him because he only worries his owm ego and legacy. I don't hate him, I hate what the country has become since his era. I don't hate him either. I hate what he's done. Hope you don't mind I'm going to spring board off your thoughts. This isn't exactly a response to you but more of let me use your thoughts as a jumping off point. Hope you don't mind. The main problem I have with him currently (nixing everything else just this one thing.) is the campaign of destabilizing the belief and trust in some of the basic ideals of the country. A country, government, rights, code of law, procedures and fuck even money are made up concepts that we all agree to believe in. This in turn enables us to have a working country and government. We as a group manifest it. It's quite an amazing and beautiful thing. I'm a softie when it comes to our country. I think it is a miracle. One of the amazing procedures we've developed is faith in and trusting the acceptance of the will of the people through voting that allows the transfer of power peacefully. Now I am not saying challenging and investigating the results of an election is wrong. That's part of the code we all have a shared belief in. There is a line though between challenging and investigating and criminality. Its the same as say the line between a Policeman subduing a suspect and assault. Up into a certain point everything is legal and correct cross it and you've committed a crime. It's a grey area to say the least. And is up to interpretation. That's why we have the legal system. Another thing we've got to believe a intangible made physical. Trump and his Team exhausted all legal attempts and early on He and His team per their emails knew that it was a lost cause to do it the legal way... and in my humble opinion crossed that grey area into criminality. It goes beyond that though. He started the destabilization of the belief and faith in the elections system months before. He was saying if he wins it wasn't rigged if he loses then that's proof that it's rigged. He kept hammering that wedge of doubt into his base which flourished and bloomed that January. It grew and grew. He has spouted half truths, conspiracy theories (with no evidence), and hatred of the other side (or other) for almost 4.5 years now. He has in his base a garden of black flowers of doubt. It has even spread into non base that was MAGA curious. The ability for the people to help select their leaders with a non-violent passage of power is one of the bedrock ideas of this country. Some people think it's solid and strong as it's survived for almost 250 years, but it's not. It's as strong as the will and faith of the people who believe in it. And in 4.5 years he has managed to get about a quarter of the people not to believe in it or have serious doubt. So that Bedrock Ideal is crumbling. Fuck the porn stars, fuck the documents, fuck the mean tweets, fuck the gaffes, fuck the vile insults, fuck the grifting, fuck the money making, fuck the nepotism, fuck that tiny weak will and huge ego... All of that is basically immaterial to me at this point. The problem I have is in 4.5 years has done more damage to our Country than any enemy has done in 248 years... because he chipped away at the intangible and fragile structure by appealing to the worst in all of us.
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