The IDF explains mistaken attack on aid workers

Because that is exactly what is going on with guys like Marsy who claims to be an atheist.

You can verify by reading my posts that I NEVER use "God's promise" to justify Zionism.  I also reject the idea of a "Chosen people", even though one poster [Xeliou] repeatedly and mercilessly called Jews "Chosenites".


This false idea that the Ashkenazi Jews from Europe who created Israel are the same people as the ancient Hebrews of the Bible; and that God gave them a deed to that land; and that's the reason for their fanatical devotion to Israel.

That is not MY reason.  Israel is a free democracy, despite all the lies to the contrary.  Freedom is a rare commodity in the world, and should be supported wherever it exists.  I think we should support Taiwan for the same reason.  Also, Zionism saved hundreds of thousands of lives by providing a haven in the 1930s, and could have saved more had the British not given in to Arab rioting by closing the gates.  There needs to be a Jewish state in the world.  Furthermore, our defense industry and military benefit from our support for Israel.


Marsy may be an atheist, but he rants like a religious fanatic who wants to kill the Palestinian infidels.

Rubbish.  Prior to October 7, I repeatedly called for a Palestinian state, PROVIDED the Palestinians agree to permanent peace with Israel.  It is the leftists and Islamists who have a murderous hatred for Israelis.

Who believes you? Who do you think you're fooling? It is possible there are some people who are so oblivious to the story, who are not paying close attention to the story, that they take your "side" on these matters. Quite a large portion of the "audience" on the computer is not really intellectually engaged much. You shouldn't let their agreement go to your head. It doesn't mean you are capable of rational thought. It only means some people simply have no clue. That's all.

On closer examination, you have a string of bizarre and unfounded beliefs. You compare Hamas to players in WWII. They are not the same thing, they are not even close. The world is entirely different by the way. This isn't WWII. You think it is because you have a severe learning disability, or you are some kind of internet troll who finds amusement in saying stupid things on the internet just to see some reaction.

I am not amused. I worry that your keepers should restrict your internet activities to prevent you from making a total fool of yourself here. Perhaps they should find some other activity for you so that you stay out of trouble. Instigating war with Palestine is not safe. You need to stop that. Even decent people have a limit to how much of your horse manure they can take. They have as much right to a home as any human being. Only by recognizing that can you expect them to act like human beings. You are too arrogant and belligerent to see that.

I went to great lengths to describe how a normal brain works. Your brain is not normal, mine is. I had mine tested (That is a joke, but true nevertheless). I am at ease "crunching" numbers because I have been doing it with training a very long time. Whether you respect me or not does not bother me. I am not in it for myself. I would however recommend that you develop more respect for the truth, and get some somewhere.

We are in the midst of a public relations disaster. Even Donald Trump says Israel is losing the public relations war. He is usually wrong about everything, but he is right about that. That is new. Israel doesn't ordinarily lose public relations. Trump could well lose the election, but that won't help you. You will still have a public relations disaster. You are far too "nationalistic" like Trump was, and you need to correct, like he might.

You see similarities between Hamas today and Japan in WWII or to the Nazis. They are nowhere near as similar as you believe. Your attempts to draw justification by those comparisons are doomed. That is because you have a tragically simplistic world view. You are not the only person with that problem. Many people in both political parties today in the United States have a tragically simplistic world view.

Talk about a total lack of self awareness.

Jews call themselves "the chosen people" much like Nazis called Germans "the master race".

The vast majority of Jews do not interpret the "chosen people" concept to mean that Jews are somehow superior to everyone else.  The Bible clearly considers Jews to be a "stiff-necked people".  For instance, according to the Bible, God freed the Hebrews from slavery in Egypt and, in their gratitude, the Hebrew built a golden calf idol and worshiped that instead.  Not the kind of story you want to tell if you are claiming Jews are "superior".

In contrast, the Nazi concept of a "master race" DOES mean superiority.

Interestingly, the Palestinians of Hamas consider Arabs to be superior to everyone else.

avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

The VERY FIRST LINE is "Ye are the best nation that hath been raised up unto mankind". 


Xel didn't make that up but he was banned for pointing out its racist hypocrisy.

No, Xeliou was banned for telling anti-Semitic jokes.  And I had nothing to do with it.


South Africa was a democracy for white people under apartheid. Israel is a democracy for Jews under apartheid.

You are engaging in a blatant fallacy.  About 20% of Israel's population consists of non-Jews, mostly Arabs, and they are citizens, have rights, vote, and serve in parliament.  All of that was most emphatically NOT true for blacks in apartheid South Africa.

The apartheid lie about Israel is as false as the Genocide lie.


The system is inherently unethical and undemocratic.

On the contrary, most Israeli Arabs are happy living in Israel.  So much so, that when polled as to whether to redraw the border so their towns become part of a Palestinian state when created, the vast majority would rather stay with Israel.


There could have been an Ashkenazi state in Europe. You ignore that it was created on another peoples' land.

Jews never had a country of their own in Europe.  Any attempt to give them one there WOULD have been created on the land of others.  It also would have been a target of invasions, and would not last long. 

In contrast, the Jewish people was born in Israel, it developed its language and religion there, it purchased land there, and has built a wonderful country there. 


The deaths of 34,000 civilians is not "murderous hatred"?

I feel sadness that so many have been killed in this war, but I also know that Hamas is not going to surrender, and so these casualties are inevitable.  Just as hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians were killed in WWII.

And you didn't address the fact that Netanyahu literally told the Palestinians to leave Gaza or they would die.  How is that not ethnic cleansing?

He told the Palestinians to leave NORTHERN Gaza.  This action saved the lives of Palestinians, and unfortunately also saved the lives of Hamas leaders and fighters.

But even if he said they must "leave Gaza", no country wants to take them in, so they will not be leaving Gaza.


Israel is an Ashkenazi ethno-state.

No, it is a JEWISH state.  Even so, non-Jews in Israel have the usual rights.  


Zionism was founded by Ashkenazis in 19th century Europe. Every PM of Israel since 1948 has been Ashkenazi.

Big deal.  America was founded by white Christians from Europe, and every president of the U.S. from 1789 until 2008 was a white Christian.  


Sure, they allow Mizrahi to immigrate to bolster their numbers.

They allow Mizrahi to immigrate because Israel is the Jewish state and its purpose is to provide a haven for Jews.  Something you don't shit about.


I'm just trying to understand your one-sided devotion to a country and an army which has just slaughtered 34 thousand innocent civilians.

I am devoted to my country, America, which slaughtered hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians in WWII.  That was a terrible thing; war is always terrible.  But avoiding that slaughter, and having WWII last longer or perhaps even losing the war, would have been worse.

Israel needs to destroy Hamas, just as the WWII Allies needed to destroy Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan.