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Post by marsatax on May 6, 2024 1:03:58 GMT
Press censorship is normal during periods of war and Israel is at war... True, I remember when the US government shut down outlets during the Iraq War. The US did throw out Transocean, a Nazi wire service, in 1941. www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2017/10/03/foreign-propaganda-is-a-problem-again-but-maybe-a-smaller-one-than-we-think/Excerpts FARA [Foreign Agents Registration Act] was enacted in 1938 as a response to the formation of multiple Nazi-inspired or Nazi-encouraged groups in the United States in the 1930s. Although it encompassed all foreign nations, FARA was most directly aimed at combating fascism and communism. It required “any person who acts or engages or agrees to act as a public-relations counsel, publicity agent, or as agent, servant, representative, or attorney for a foreign principal or for any domestic organization subsidized directly or indirectly in whole or in part by a foreign principal” to register with the State Department. That same year, a major Nazi news agency, Transocean, would coincidentally open a New York office. J. Edgar Hoover, the first and longest-serving FBI director, immediately launched an investigation into it. Transocean had been founded in 1913 to supply news from Germany overseas. It received government subsidies before the Nazis came to power in 1933, but Hitler’s government invested significantly more in the agency. The Nazis deliberately obscured Transocean’s government funding and ownership. Nazi groups abroad had reported that the main Nazi newspaper, Völkischer Beobachter, was unsuitable for daily propaganda outside Germany. Transocean worked better because it seemed to be independent. Hoover was suspicious of Transocean because he worried that it both spread Nazi propaganda and was a cover for a massive Nazi spy ring in South America. His concerns sparked an investigation by the later infamous House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), which was created in 1938 to investigate subversive activity with ties to communism or fascism. HUAC concluded in 1940: “When Hitler took over the Government of Germany, he transformed the Transocean News Service into an agency for the dissemination of propaganda in foreign countries and also utilized it as an organization that could, with a minimum of suspicion, engage in espionage activities.” The next year, a federal grand jury indicted Transocean’s general manager in North America, Manfred Zapp, and representative Günther Tonn for failing to register as foreign agents under FARA. Before an investigative committee, Zapp, a member of the Nazi Party since May 1933, falsely claimed Transocean received no government subsidies and that he was exempt from FARA because he was engaged in “bona fide trade or commerce.” Before Zapp and Tonn could stand trial, however, they were returned to Germany, possibly as part of a prisoner swap for two representatives of an American news agency, United Press. The trial of Transocean continued even without the defendants in custody. The court found that the German Foreign Office controlled Transocean and subsidized 93 percent of its activities.
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Post by mr_self on May 6, 2024 1:06:03 GMT
Saudi Arabia is a major US ally and their people were behind 9/11. I question all US 'ally's' in the Middle East. It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Mos Eisley is tame af in comparison. Saudi Arabia isn't a major US ally. At least not yet. If you question all allies in the Middle East, this naturally extends to Israel. What do you question about them? I question their banning of Al Jazeera, I question their means of rescuing hostages, I question their Intelligence capabilities, I question the killing of aid workers and journalists. I question the IDF's ability to eliminate Hamas while doing all they can to not kill innocent civilians. Does that answer your question, amigo? Or was I being evasive?
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Post by Dracula on May 6, 2024 1:06:10 GMT
Hey man, what do you think of this adorable outfit for my pit bull? I se pittbull owners as late term abortion providers. After all, most the kids they kill are Christian kids so fuck em. They just do the job the Christian parents couldn't. I was thinking of brighter, more saturated colors rather than pastels. What do you think?
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Post by Dracula on May 6, 2024 1:10:19 GMT
Yeah, I'm being sarcastic. Was Nazi Germany a democracy? And are you sure that's the parallel you want to draw? Doesn't matter about democracy or not, point is during times of war you don't allow the enemies propaganda to circulate in your own backyard. So when the U.S. was at war in Iraq, freedom of speech and freedom of the press in the U.S. should've taken a back seat to the government's preferred narrative, is what you're saying?
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Post by bartlesby on May 6, 2024 1:10:56 GMT
True, I remember when the US government shut down outlets during the Iraq War. The US did throw out Transocean, a Nazi wire service, in 1941. 1. This isn't the 1940s anymore. 2. That was because they did not register under FARA despite being foreign agents. 3. Israel is not at war with Qatar. At least not yet.
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Post by bartlesby on May 6, 2024 1:13:33 GMT
Saudi Arabia isn't a major US ally. At least not yet. If you question all allies in the Middle East, this naturally extends to Israel. What do you question about them? I question their banning of Al Jazeera, I question their means of rescuing hostages, I question their Intelligence capabilities, I question the killing of aid workers and journalists. I question the IDF's ability to eliminate Hamas while doing all they can to not kill innocent civilians. Does that answer your question, amigo? Or was I being evasive? No, just vague.
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Post by Based Chad on May 6, 2024 1:14:44 GMT
Saudi Arabia is a major US ally and their people were behind 9/11. I question all US 'ally's' in the Middle East. It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Mos Eisley is tame af in comparison. Saudi Arabia isn't a major US ally. At least not yet. If you question all allies in the Middle East, this naturally extends to Israel. What do you question about them? Um, why do you hate Biden so much? SA is the biggest ally of the USA on a global stage as the US Dollar is the "petrodollar" and backs our currency now that we don't have a gold standard. Maybe you should take your far right views to a secessionist colony in Montana if you don't get what he is doing? Why would we question Israel if you support Biden as he has put 9 of the top 12 positions in his executive branch positions as Jews? The only reason you would oppose this is if you are an antisemite.
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Post by marsatax on May 6, 2024 1:15:05 GMT
The US did throw out Transocean, a Nazi wire service, in 1941. 1. This isn't the 1940s anymore. 2. That was because they did not register under FARA despite being foreign agents. 3. Israel is not at war with Qatar. At least not yet. We've been through this before. Israel and Qatar are technically in a state of war. Also, Qatar is friendly with Hamas. So Israel is fully justified to kick Al-Jazeera out.
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Post by Based Chad on May 6, 2024 1:18:51 GMT
1. This isn't the 1940s anymore. 2. That was because they did not register under FARA despite being foreign agents. 3. Israel is not at war with Qatar. At least not yet. We've been through this before. Israel and Qatar are technically in a state of war. Also, Qatar is friendly with Hamas. So Israel is fully justified to kick Al-Jazeera out. Exactly right. Which is why Biden is looking to escalate the war. And those that don't support his invasions are antisemites.
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Post by bartlesby on May 6, 2024 1:19:10 GMT
1. This isn't the 1940s anymore. 2. That was because they did not register under FARA despite being foreign agents. 3. Israel is not at war with Qatar. At least not yet. We've been through this before. Israel and Qatar are technically in a state of war. Also, Qatar is friendly with Hamas. So Israel is fully justified to kick Al-Jazeera out. Yeah, we were through this before and it's still dumb now. If they're technically in a state of war, why hasn't Israel performed strikes in Qatar?
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Post by Based Chad on May 6, 2024 1:22:11 GMT
Doesn't matter about democracy or not, point is during times of war you don't allow the enemies propaganda to circulate in your own backyard. So when the U.S. was at war in Iraq, freedom of speech and freedom of the press in the U.S. should've taken a back seat to the government's preferred narrative, is what you're saying? I'm proud to say that Biden led the charge in Congress and got the far-right idea of "Free speech" banned during that era, and also passed The Patriot Act.
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Post by Based Chad on May 6, 2024 1:25:43 GMT
We've been through this before. Israel and Qatar are technically in a state of war. Also, Qatar is friendly with Hamas. So Israel is fully justified to kick Al-Jazeera out. Yeah, we were through this before and it's still dumb now. If they're technically in a state of war, why hasn't Israel performed strikes in Qatar? Oh boy. You sound like an antisemite. The bigger question is why hasn't the USA bombed Qatar on behalf of Israel like we did Iraq, Syria and Libya? Why should Israel have to fight it's own wars when the majority of Biden's cheifs of staff are Israeli and get the funding from the USA instead?
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Post by mr_self on May 6, 2024 1:27:17 GMT
I question their banning of Al Jazeera, I question their means of rescuing hostages, I question their Intelligence capabilities, I question the killing of aid workers and journalists. I question the IDF's ability to eliminate Hamas while doing all they can to not kill innocent civilians. Does that answer your question, amigo? Or was I being evasive? No, just vague. My bad. Vague about what? Ask me a direct question and I will give you a direct answer. Only because I like you and find you to be worth my time. But hurry, I will be drunk soon.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 6, 2024 1:27:53 GMT
True, I remember when the US government shut down outlets during the Iraq War. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but do you think Germany allowed the BBC full reign during WWII?
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Post by san926f on May 6, 2024 1:32:53 GMT
My bad. Vague about what? Ask me a direct question and I will give you a direct answer. Only because I like you and find you to be worth my time. But hurry, I will be drunk soon. I can't decide if I want to drink tonight. I really want to catch a buzz, but I'm not sure if I want to get dressed. Decisions. I wish I could just Door Dash a couple 40s.
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