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Post by San926f on May 11, 2024 5:27:05 GMT
Southern Baptists tried to justify slavery during the civil war with Bible because that is what happens when men cherry pick the Bible for convenience and also don't underunderstand it in the first place. Then you have supposed "Christian" nationalist and nazi Nick Fuentes trying to make an argument for doing away with the age of consent.
There have been, and still are, terrible examples of the faith. That is why those in the faith must always be ready to be an apologist for it
1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect.
How we live our lives is the real testimony. They will know us by how we treat them, each other, and ourselves.
Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.
But the argument should never be that "Christianity" or "Christians" are superior anyway. That will fall apart with the numerous examples of failed men and women. The argument/debate/conversation/apologetics should always be for Christ himself. He is the only standard for the faith, and everything else is just noise.
But what do I know? I left organized religion ( but not Christ) a long time ago. I'm kind of a horrible person, but I feel like at least I know it. Most people don't.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on May 11, 2024 5:35:49 GMT
Southern Baptists tried to justify slavery during the civil war with Bible because that is what happens when men cherry pick the Bible for convenience and also don't underunderstand it in the first place. Then you have supposed "Christian" nationalist and nazi Nick Fuentes trying to make an argument for doing away with the age of consent. There have been, and still are, terrible examples of the faith. That is why those in the faith must always be ready to be an apologist for it 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. How we live our lives is the real testimony. They will know us by how we treat them, each other, and ourselves. Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. But the argument should never be that "Christianity" or "Christians" are superior anyway. That will fall apart with the numerous examples of failed men and women. The argument/debate/conversation/apologetics should always be for Christ himself. He is the only standard for the faith, and everything else is just noise. But what do I know? I left organized religion ( but not Christ) a long time ago. I'm kind of a horrible person, but I feel like at least I know it. Most people don't. You know a lot. Couldn't and wouldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by San926f on May 11, 2024 5:46:20 GMT
Southern Baptists tried to justify slavery during the civil war with Bible because that is what happens when men cherry pick the Bible for convenience and also don't underunderstand it in the first place. Then you have supposed "Christian" nationalist and nazi Nick Fuentes trying to make an argument for doing away with the age of consent. There have been, and still are, terrible examples of the faith. That is why those in the faith must always be ready to be an apologist for it 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. How we live our lives is the real testimony. They will know us by how we treat them, each other, and ourselves. Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. But the argument should never be that "Christianity" or "Christians" are superior anyway. That will fall apart with the numerous examples of failed men and women. The argument/debate/conversation/apologetics should always be for Christ himself. He is the only standard for the faith, and everything else is just noise. But what do I know? I left organized religion ( but not Christ) a long time ago. I'm kind of a horrible person, but I feel like at least I know it. Most people don't. You know a lot. Couldn't and wouldn't have said it better myself. I know a little. Been around a block or two. That's all.
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Post by San926f on May 11, 2024 5:50:46 GMT
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on May 11, 2024 5:56:39 GMT
That is very beautiful and powerful. I wish many "Christians' would reflect this. Instead, we have very loud voices reflecting the exact opposite. Which makes it very defeating and difficult to stay grounded.
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Post by ShadowSouL Likes This on May 11, 2024 5:58:52 GMT
Southern Baptists tried to justify slavery during the civil war with Bible because that is what happens when men cherry pick the Bible for convenience and also don't underunderstand it in the first place. Then you have supposed "Christian" nationalist and nazi Nick Fuentes trying to make an argument for doing away with the age of consent. There have been, and still are, terrible examples of the faith. That is why those in the faith must always be ready to be an apologist for it 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. How we live our lives is the real testimony. They will know us by how we treat them, each other, and ourselves. Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. But the argument should never be that "Christianity" or "Christians" are superior anyway. That will fall apart with the numerous examples of failed men and women. The argument/debate/conversation/apologetics should always be for Christ himself. He is the only standard for the faith, and everything else is just noise. But what do I know? I left organized religion ( but not Christ) a long time ago. I'm kind of a horrible person, but I feel like at least I know it. Most people don't. This is the real distinction and difference. This is it what it boils down to. I think that's where humility comes in. And I think that's what God's looking at and appreciates the most.
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Post by cat on May 11, 2024 6:27:38 GMT
I think gladiatorial combat just became UFC and MMA. Maybe boxing. It used to be that I'd never seen a single person ever argue for infanticide.
Last year, I found one: Peter Singer. The one person I have ever seen advocate for infanticide.
Interesting, but longer than I expected. I don't mind that the article is from September 11, 1999.
I think he's probably aware that what he's advocating the commission from a crime. That's a bit generous of the author, but he's from Australia, not the moon. I don't think he's not getting that it's not legal. I think he's saying it should be.
Interesting, but I wouldn't let him near a baby.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 11, 2024 7:19:49 GMT
I think gladiatorial combat just became UFC and MMA. Maybe boxing. It used to be that I'd never seen a single person ever argue for infanticide. Last year, I found one: Peter Singer. The one person I have ever seen advocate for infanticide. Interesting, but longer than I expected. I don't mind that the article is from September 11, 1999.
I think he's probably aware that what he's advocating the commission from a crime. That's a bit generous of the author, but he's from Australia, not the moon. I don't think he's not getting that it's not legal. I think he's saying it should be. Interesting, but I wouldn't let him near a baby. Singer is not arguing for infanticide, but the logical conclusion based on Western Morality. He was notorious for these. He was not laying down Leftist law, but forcing his students to argue against him. We would not kill an infant with sever deformities or illnesses, but we have no problem mercy killing a puppy or calf born like that.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 11, 2024 7:21:09 GMT
I think gladiatorial combat just became UFC and MMA. Maybe boxing. And infanticide became abortion.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 11, 2024 8:11:28 GMT
I think gladiatorial combat just became UFC and MMA. Maybe boxing. And infanticide became abortion. Anytime you knowing let an infant die, that's infanticide. Do you consider the infants currently dying in Gaza victims of infanticide? Also, the Bible is pro-abortion and infanticide.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on May 11, 2024 9:19:26 GMT
Southern Baptists tried to justify slavery during the civil war with Bible because that is what happens when men cherry pick the Bible for convenience and also don't underunderstand it in the first place. Then you have supposed "Christian" nationalist and nazi Nick Fuentes trying to make an argument for doing away with the age of consent. There have been, and still are, terrible examples of the faith. That is why those in the faith must always be ready to be an apologist for it 1 Peter 3:15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect. How we live our lives is the real testimony. They will know us by how we treat them, each other, and ourselves. Galatians 5:19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. But the argument should never be that "Christianity" or "Christians" are superior anyway. That will fall apart with the numerous examples of failed men and women. The argument/debate/conversation/apologetics should always be for Christ himself. He is the only standard for the faith, and everything else is just noise. But what do I know? I left organized religion ( but not Christ) a long time ago. I'm kind of a horrible person, but I feel like at least I know it. Most people don't. Horrible in what sense? Less than perfect? I believe our attempts to be fair can be somewhat successful. I believe they can be worth the effort. I think you could be a great representative of organized religion. At the same time I understand what a hazardous practice it is.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2024 9:31:08 GMT
I kinda think capturing people and making them do your hard work is an idea that sprung up everywhere around the world but then again they say the human race started in Africa so you could be right. That said Christianity was a strong force in the abolition of slavery but it took some time for many good Christians to realise that it wasn’t such a good idea.
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Post by phludowin on May 11, 2024 10:10:39 GMT
I think gladiatorial combat just became UFC and MMA. Maybe boxing. It used to be that I'd never seen a single person ever argue for infanticide. Last year, I found one: Peter Singer. The one person I have ever seen advocate for infanticide. Interesting, but longer than I expected. I don't mind that the article is from September 11, 1999.
I think he's probably aware that what he's advocating the commission from a crime. That's a bit generous of the author, but he's from Australia, not the moon. I don't think he's not getting that it's not legal. I think he's saying it should be. Interesting, but I wouldn't let him near a baby. I've read Singer's "Practical Ethics" (a bit difficult for me), and "Writings on an ethical life" (much easier to read). He doesn't say anything wrong in my opinion. A newborn Homo Sapiens has less personality than a grown pig. Yet we have no problem killing pigs for food (unless we're strong vegetarians or vegans, which I'm not). I had problems understanding his advocacy for "preference utilitarism", which sounded like an attempt to make exceptions for rules. But one thing is true: His lectures in Germany have repeatedly been disturbed, or people have attempted to prevent him from speaking. And that was in the 1980s. So Cancel Culture is nothing new.
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on May 11, 2024 10:32:41 GMT
Certain ideas that weren't comfortable with Christians were ended which caused an erasure of culture and diversity. Which one do you miss most? 1. Human sacrifice. A staple of the Aztecs and Mayans, people were mercilessly killed to appease the Gods. The Conquistadors destroyed this rich cultural practice for patriarchial reasons.
2. Sati. An Indian tradition, when a man died the woman was put on a pyre and set a fire. For some unknown reason, the British insisted that they stop doing this.
3. Head-hunting. An ancient Celtic and Borneo tradition, taking the heads was supposed to take spiritual power. Christianity got rid of it.
4. Gladiatorial combat. Why not give prisoners a second chance to redeem themselves?
5. Crucifixion. A staple of Roman traditional, Christians got all uppity after a certain person got the cross.
6. Slavery. An African tradition that Europeans adopted, but then Christianity ended it based on the Christian idea of life.
7. Marriage by Abduction. Used to, in parts of the world, if one wanted a bride, you had to abduct her with a posse. Christians replaced this practice with a much more lame thing called "courting" where you talk words and get consent to marry.
8. Infanticide. Practiced in many cultures, and especially by the Aboriginal groups, the intolerant Christians ended this cultural practice and called it "murder".
The way women abandon christianity, especially catholicism needs to be stamped out. Spanish priests had the right idea, to shove hot coals up possible apostates vaginas till they confessed.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on May 11, 2024 11:25:24 GMT
Certain ideas that weren't comfortable with Christians were ended which caused an erasure of culture and diversity. Which one do you miss most? 1. Human sacrifice. A staple of the Aztecs and Mayans, people were mercilessly killed to appease the Gods. The Conquistadors destroyed this rich cultural practice for patriarchial reasons.
2. Sati. An Indian tradition, when a man died the woman was put on a pyre and set a fire. For some unknown reason, the British insisted that they stop doing this.
3. Head-hunting. An ancient Celtic and Borneo tradition, taking the heads was supposed to take spiritual power. Christianity got rid of it.
4. Gladiatorial combat. Why not give prisoners a second chance to redeem themselves?
5. Crucifixion. A staple of Roman traditional, Christians got all uppity after a certain person got the cross.
6. Slavery. An African tradition that Europeans adopted, but then Christianity ended it based on the Christian idea of life.
7. Marriage by Abduction. Used to, in parts of the world, if one wanted a bride, you had to abduct her with a posse. Christians replaced this practice with a much more lame thing called "courting" where you talk words and get consent to marry.
8. Infanticide. Practiced in many cultures, and especially by the Aboriginal groups, the intolerant Christians ended this cultural practice and called it "murder".
The way women abandon christianity, especially catholicism needs to be stamped out. Spanish priests had the right idea, to shove hot coals up possible apostates vaginas till they confessed. The also flushed using boiling water.
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