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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jun 23, 2024 15:26:58 GMT
And the daily self-victimization continues. We've got it...you're a perpetual victim and the white man and Christianity are evil. Message received. You may carry on feeling like a better person.
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Post by papamihel on Jun 23, 2024 16:00:49 GMT
Did I touch a nerve or something? I would think you are too old to believe your side to be the Ultimate Good. Yes. You’ve got 150K dead in Gaza. You go bury them before you tell me about what how I’ve live 70 years doing American politics. This problem is not limited to the US. It's endemic to all modern democracies. If we had fewer useless opportunists and less moral cowardice in our politics, Israel would have destroyed HAMAS in 2007 and we wouldn't be in this mess. We talked about it in other threads. As life gets too good, citizens stop being directly involved in the political life of their republic. As a result you get bad leaders. And I don't think you should automatically defend politicians whose proclaimed convictions overlap with yours. You know, you often sound dark and disillusioned which is, I believe, proper for any person with a reasonably long real-life experience. But you seem to lack a healthy doze of cynicism when it comes to your side. I'd like to think you possess enough self-awareness to reflect on that.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Jun 23, 2024 16:37:23 GMT
Yes. You’ve got 150K dead in Gaza. You go bury them before you tell me about what how I’ve live 70 years doing American politics. This problem is not limited to the US. It's endemic to all modern democracies. If we had fewer useless opportunists and less moral cowardice in our politics, Israel would have destroyed HAMAS in 2007 and we wouldn't be in this mess. We talked about it in other threads. As life gets too good, citizens stop being directly involved in the political life of their republic. As a result you get bad leaders. And I don't think you should automatically defend politicians whose proclaimed convictions overlap with yours. You know, you often sound dark and disillusioned which is, I believe, proper for any person with a reasonably long real-life experience. But you seem to lack a healthy doze of cynicism when it comes to your side. I'd like to think you possess enough self-awareness to reflect on that. On the contrary, I’m a pragmatist and right now the only way out of this shit show is to get Capitalism back under control. I know all the shitty things the Democrats have done, like Vietnam and Bubba Clinton, but they are not a threat to modern civilization; fascism in support of oligarchy is. As a liberal, I am not proud Obama screwed the pooch on not going after the financial institution’s criminal activity that nearly brought on a massive economic depression. Instead, he bailed them out and now “your side” is biting the hand that feeds it.
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Post by Factchecker3Point0 on Jun 23, 2024 17:38:56 GMT
That tends to go with it. MAGA thinks about as deep as a frying pan. In a few years conservatives are going to try to shuck this identity like they did the neo-con identity after Bush. But this identity won't go quietly. They've let the fundies in. The fundies won't be leaving. And, like they did with Bush, they'll try to paint Trump as a hero of the left.
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