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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 3, 2024 21:39:20 GMT
He barebacked a porn star then paid her hush money to fix an election. That wasn't a presidential act. He tried to steal an election. That wasn't a presidential act. And so on. "He barebacked a porn star" Not illegal and I agree that it's not a presidential act. "..then paid her hush money to fix an election." Hush money is not illegal, and no election was fixed. And correct..not a presidential act so also not part of the OP. "He tried to steal an election." Well I recall when he used a series of challenges to an election. But when did he try to steal it? Does anyone else know about it? His FELONIES, then, the ones he's been convicted of, weren't presidential acts. And yet, he's demanding not to be sentenced due to the SCOTUS decision. Sentencing has been delayed due to the SCOTUS decision. And yes, he tried to fix the election BY paying hush money. The Georgia election case. Read about it from an objective source. You'll really rationalize ANYTHING this career criminal does. And you wonder why we call it a cult, and you a cult member.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 3, 2024 21:41:47 GMT
Paying a porn star hush money to keep quiet so he could get elected was an act of president? Tardis version? LOL....nope. I don't imagine it would be construed as such. But hush money isn't illegal as far as I know. You know what he was convicted of. He is saying that was a presidential act. maga is mum, of course. Are you ready for presidents to have such wide ranging immunity? Or do you just assume there will never be another democratic president so the end justifies the means?
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Post by Lux on Jul 3, 2024 21:44:15 GMT
"He barebacked a porn star" Not illegal and I agree that it's not a presidential act. "..then paid her hush money to fix an election." Hush money is not illegal, and no election was fixed. And correct..not a presidential act so also not part of the OP. "He tried to steal an election." Well I recall when he used a series of challenges to an election. But when did he try to steal it? Does anyone else know about it? His FELONIES, then, the ones he's been convicted of weren't presidential acts. And yet, he's demanding not to be sentenced due to the SCOTUS decision. Sentencing has been delayed due to the SCOTUS decision. And yes, he tried to fix the election BY paying hush money. The Georgia election case. Read about it from an objective source. You'll really rationalize ANYTHING this career criminal does. And you wonder why we call it a cult, and you a cult member. But sticking with Biden isn't cult behavior.
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Post by jimmywynn on Jul 3, 2024 21:45:13 GMT
LOL....nope. I don't imagine it would be construed as such. But hush money isn't illegal as far as I know. You know what he was convicted of. He is saying that was a presidential act. maga is mum, of course. Are you ready for presidents to have such wide ranging immunity? Or do you just assume there will never be another democratic president so the end justifies the means? They were saying on TV that Trump's logic is because he involved Michael Cohen in the cover up ( or whatever they are calling it) while he was POTUS that it makes it all fall under the Presidential duties umbrella.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel ♀︎ on Jul 3, 2024 21:46:25 GMT
You know what he was convicted of. He is saying that was a presidential act. maga is mum, of course. Are you ready for presidents to have such wide ranging immunity? Or do you just assume there will never be another democratic president so the end justifies the means? They were saying on TV that Trump's logic is because he involved Michael Cohen in the cover up ( or whatever they are calling it) while he was POTUS that it makes it all fall under the Presidential duties umbrella. And that is INSANITY. But maga won't say that.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jul 3, 2024 21:48:48 GMT
"He barebacked a porn star" Not illegal and I agree that it's not a presidential act. "..then paid her hush money to fix an election." Hush money is not illegal, and no election was fixed. And correct..not a presidential act so also not part of the OP. "He tried to steal an election." Well I recall when he used a series of challenges to an election. But when did he try to steal it? Does anyone else know about it? His FELONIES, then, the ones he's been convicted of weren't presidential acts. And yet, he's demanding not to be sentenced due to the SCOTUS decision. Sentencing has been delayed due to the SCOTUS decision. And yes, he tried to fix the election BY paying hush money. The Georgia election case. Read about it from an objective source. You'll really rationalize ANYTHING this career criminal does. And you wonder why we call it a cult, and you a cult member. Ahh but your prior examples were not presidential which was your OP. So why blame me for your inability to cite examples? There are tons of motions he can file. But if the flimsy (as even most on the left agree) state case NY doesn't constitute any argument of presidential immunity...which I don't believe it does... then it won't stop any sentencing in the end. So do you care abot a delay in justice?... or do you hate that it won't prevent him from potentially winning? That was a rhetorical question. No....that's not the definition of fixing an election. Fixing an election is when you directly and illegally mess with the results. Hush money for an alleged act does not confirm the act, isn't illegal, and doesn't rig an election. I have. The Georgia case is self-serving but still within his rights to challenge the votes in a state that had a far lower voided vote total despite having a significantly higher volume. I am not rationalizing anything. I am asking you to prove your claim. I have long since conceded he is a liar, vindictive, petty, thin-skinned, immoral in regard to his marriages AND business dealings, etc. Yet despite that, he's been a better president than anything the Dems have produced in half a century. I know to you....your irrational emotion trumps any need to prove a point. But rational adults need actual proof. And I fully admit the TDS kids refer to anyone requiring proof is a cult member despite the fact the TDS crowd exhibits said qualities in far greater frequency and volume. Anything else or do you want to shameless bump your cult thread again to cope with your increasingly likely (and well -deserved) loss?
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jul 3, 2024 21:50:21 GMT
LOL....nope. I don't imagine it would be construed as such. But hush money isn't illegal as far as I know. You know what he was convicted of. He is saying that was a presidential act. maga is mum, of course. Are you ready for presidents to have such wide ranging immunity? Or do you just assume there will never be another democratic president so the end justifies the means? Nope...I maintain consistency. But now that the issue has been pressed, it will have to be more clearly defined on a case by case basis. I hope the TDS was worth it. You all already sacrificed your dignity, the high ground, being the intellectual party, and common sense. Now we'll see what scrapping centuries of precedence will do. Time will tell.
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Post by averagejoe2021 on Jul 3, 2024 21:51:44 GMT
His FELONIES, then, the ones he's been convicted of weren't presidential acts. And yet, he's demanding not to be sentenced due to the SCOTUS decision. Sentencing has been delayed due to the SCOTUS decision. And yes, he tried to fix the election BY paying hush money. The Georgia election case. Read about it from an objective source. You'll really rationalize ANYTHING this career criminal does. And you wonder why we call it a cult, and you a cult member. But sticking with Biden isn't cult behavior. Yeah and when they say " I know he's old/bad/etc but he's a million time better than Trump!" Like..WTF do they dream up that metric when the numbers refute them? Its like arguing with kids.
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Post by Lux on Jul 3, 2024 22:03:56 GMT
But sticking with Biden isn't cult behavior. Yeah and when they say " I know he's old/bad/etc but he's a million time better than Trump!" Like..WTF do they dream up that metric when the numbers refute them? Its like arguing with kids. Biden is the victim of elderly abuse. No sane person believes he'll save them from a Trump dictatorship.
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Post by dk56 on Jul 3, 2024 22:05:10 GMT
They're too busy watching the Dem party collapse and libs having total meltdowns.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Jul 3, 2024 22:18:09 GMT
An when he does turn on them, there are a couple of posters here who will say "Thank you sir, may I have another?" Religion. You always have a group that wants to see itself as more favored than others. Special. Growing up Mormon, I was taught we were a "peculiar people" but that also meant we had to be exemplary. Anything we did wrong would reflect on the group so we had to be better than most. While often it just comes down to "I'm with the saved group, you arent" Until they get ousted. Oops. For a nation that says it values individualism, MAGA does not think as individuals, but with one mind. It is reflective of our national inferiority complex.
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Post by merh on Jul 3, 2024 22:24:15 GMT
Paying a porn star hush money to keep quiet so he could get elected was an act of president? Tardis version? LOL....nope. I don't imagine it would be construed as such. But hush money isn't illegal as far as I know. That's why it was linked to the bookkeeping issue of claiming the money paid to Cohen was for legal services when it was paying him back for the money he paid to keep the women quiet. Apparently it was because the other audio caused a ripple in the approval they worried him bopping other women while the wife was preggers might upset female voters. But then Cheapass Trump didn't want to pay until after the election because if he lost, it didn't matter.
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Post by merh on Jul 3, 2024 22:25:24 GMT
His FELONIES, then, the ones he's been convicted of weren't presidential acts. And yet, he's demanding not to be sentenced due to the SCOTUS decision. Sentencing has been delayed due to the SCOTUS decision. And yes, he tried to fix the election BY paying hush money. The Georgia election case. Read about it from an objective source. You'll really rationalize ANYTHING this career criminal does. And you wonder why we call it a cult, and you a cult member. But sticking with Biden isn't cult behavior. Too late to swap out. Just run with Biden, then he can step down in February
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Post by Lux on Jul 3, 2024 22:46:02 GMT
But sticking with Biden isn't cult behavior. Too late to swap out. Just run with Biden, then he can step down in February Are you mad?
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