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Post by Flying Monkeys on Feb 15, 2018 21:55:09 GMT
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That latest shooter. Look at him - malformed exterior is likely to mean malformed interior (i.e. brain).
Of course the gun shop guy doesn't care, he just wants to sell guns.
But for fuck's sake, 19 years-olds are idiots, they shouldn't have guns at all, but ones who are clearly nutty looking? And you support your country selling guns to this guy?
What a weird country.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 22:34:32 GMT
that dude looked like a problem child- like Damian - the antichrist.
I am all for 2nd amendment but they should do mandatory psych testing for all new gun owners- including getting a drs note.- that way if something happens someone is accountable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 0:53:48 GMT
Here's the amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
What do you think? Does that say unlimited guns for everybody safety be damned? I don't really see the point of the first half or the commas if what extremists claim is true.
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Post by Colin Sibthorpe on Feb 16, 2018 1:04:23 GMT
The Amendment’s prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause.
What's difficult to understand about that? It's clear as crystal, unusually clear for a legal decision.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 1:11:03 GMT
I don't know you tell me. How many gun owners are registered with and are regulated by their state militias? How many even know what a militia is? You're the one who doesn't seem to understand what you posted.
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Post by Harold of Whoa on Feb 16, 2018 1:18:40 GMT
I don't know you tell me. How many gun owners are registered with and are regulated by their state militias? How many even know what a militia is? You're the one who doesn't seem to understand what you posted. You're the one who doesn't seem to understand that "promote" means something entirely different than "provide for", so you may not be the best one to give a lecture on this. Back to the 2nd Amendment, please note the use of the phrase "the people". No arm or element of government is "the people" in this context. And "shall not be infringed." That's another one you should really sink your teeth into. |
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Post by Colin Sibthorpe on Feb 16, 2018 1:22:43 GMT
Mythic, do you understand the meaning of the word "prefatory"? If not. there are plenty of good online dictionaries.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 1:47:11 GMT
I don't know you tell me. How many gun owners are registered with and are regulated by their state militias? How many even know what a militia is? You're the one who doesn't seem to understand what you posted. You're the one who doesn't seem to understand that "promote" means something entirely different than "provide for", so you may not be the best one to give a lecture on this. Back to the 2nd Amendment, please note the use of the phrase "the people". No arm or element of government is "the people" in this context. And "shall not be infringed." That's another one you should really sink your teeth into. I don't know what you mean. The constitution says promote in the preamble and provide in article 1 section 8. Some of you seem to think I'm your enemy when I'm not. There's a right and wrong way to do things, most of you seem to choose the wrong way because of mental disorders, I'm just telling you the right way whether it pisses you off or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 1:51:08 GMT
Colin, do you know what purpose means? I'm sure there's an online dictionary you can look it up at. Also, there is no first or second part, it's one sentence. If you're going to break it 8nto parts why not 4 parts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 2:03:26 GMT
Btw Harold the people is referring to the militia. Look it up, every definition of militia tells you it's made up of the people or ordinary people. You can bully your way through government with money, nitpicking and semantics, that doesn't make you right.
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Post by ayatollah on Feb 16, 2018 2:04:56 GMT
Id be fine with measures for keeping guns out of the hands of nutjobs, but I know that those measures will gradually be expanded to include damn near everyone. I guess the real problem this country has is that we don't trust each other further than we can throw each other. I honestly think the real aim of most "progressives" is to simply ban guns.
And to be honest I don't really care, I dont even like guns. I still have one and want one because I know the genie is out of the bottle, there are millions of guns out there and criminals don't give a fuck about the law, so they aren't bothered by guns being banned. Its not like some dude who wants to kill people is going to say "Gosh Id love to shoot a whole mess of people but guns are banned".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 2:14:30 GMT
them? That latest shooter. Look at him - malformed exterior is likely to mean malformed interior (i.e. brain). Of course the gun shop guy doesn't care, he just wants to sell guns. But for fuck's sake, 19 years-olds are idiots, they shouldn't have guns at all, but ones who are clearly nutty looking? And you support your country selling guns to this guy? What a weird country. They usually have those crazy eyes. I believe he got the gun from the house of the family who took him in after his mother died like a year ago. |
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Post by Harold of Whoa on Feb 16, 2018 2:15:08 GMT
Btw Harold the people is referring to the militia. Look it up, every definition of militia tells you it's made up of the people or ordinary people. You can bully your way through government with money, nitpicking and semantics, that doesn't make you right. I know what a militia is, but I also understand construction and grammar. It would have been easy to write "The right of a well-regulated militia to keep and bear arms...." but that isn't what it says. There is a clause stating necessity and there is a statement. Everything that leads you to believe that the federal government can restrict the ownership of weapons is extrapolation about the clause while ignoring the declarative statement. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 2:16:59 GMT
That's why states are supposed to be structuring and regulating their own militias and rules for guns. Even if there were federal regulations for random citizens, the 2nd amendment means they cannot tell states what they can do. Each state then has accountability and an armed military in any case. Texas could let everyone own a gun, Ohio could severely limit them, +48 other set ups the people of those states decide, you get to pick which you think is safer to live if you want. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2018 2:19:05 GMT
Btw Harold the people is referring to the militia. Look it up, every definition of militia tells you it's made up of the people or ordinary people. You can bully your way through government with money, nitpicking and semantics, that doesn't make you right. I know what a militia is, but I also understand construction and grammar. It would have been easy to write "The right of a well-regulated militia to keep and bear arms...." but that isn't what it says. There is a clause stating necessity and there is a statement. Everything that leads you to believe that the federal government can restrict the ownership of weapons is extrapolation about the clause while ignoring the declarative statement. The feds can restrict whatever they want except for the state militia and the rules they have set up. It's kind of absurd the reason we have no accountability is because some of y9u have no common sense. |
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