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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 16:53:47 GMT
And I never claimed she had said anything positive about them, so why would I find evidence to support a position I never held? You're kinda special. You implied it. You admitted you implied it. Stop acting like a child. I implied she supported Hamas. Yes, well done. Did I say she spoke positively about them? No. You're thick.
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 16:54:08 GMT
My standard MO is not accepting you lot lying about what I said. That is correct. Personally I think thats reasonable, but I'm not a leftist Fair enough. And we won't accept you lying about what you said. So what specifically is my lie in this thread?
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 16:59:56 GMT
You can be disingenuous and claim that in no way does that quote suggest you believe Kiwi to be a supporter of or advocate for Hamas. A supporter or advocate generally does feel, think, or speak positively about that which they support or advocate, but if you know of any examples where that isn't the case, feel free to cite them.
disΒ·inΒ·genΒ·uΒ·ous /ΛdisΙnΛjenyΙwΙs/ adjective not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. "he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical"
Most of us know it when we see it.
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Post by π π π π π πββ¬ Molly on Nov 22, 2024 17:01:17 GMT
You implied it. You admitted you implied it. Stop acting like a child. I implied she supported Hamas. Yes, well done. Did I say she spoke positively about them? No. You're thick.Β Youβre splitting hairs and grasping at straws.
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 17:16:40 GMT
I implied she supported Hamas. Yes, well done. Did I say she spoke positively about them? No. You're thick. Youβre splitting hairs and grasping at straws. No, I'm not. This is what you lot do every time. You claim I said something that none of you can show me saying, then accuse me of backpedaling or lying. lol Did say she spoke positively about Hamas? Yes or no?
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 17:17:32 GMT
You can be disingenuous and claim that in no way does that quote suggest you believe Kiwi to be a supporter of or advocate for Hamas. A supporter or advocate generally does feel, think, or speak positively about that which they support or advocate, but if you know of any examples where that isn't the case, feel free to cite them. disΒ·inΒ·genΒ·uΒ·ous /ΛdisΙnΛjenyΙwΙs/ adjective not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. "he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical"Most of us know it when we see it. Brilliant, since I already said I implied she supported Hamas, what specifically am I lying about?
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Post by π π π π π πββ¬ Molly on Nov 22, 2024 17:30:47 GMT
Youβre splitting hairs and grasping at straws. No, I'm not. This is what you lot do every time. You claim I said something that none of you can show me saying, then accuse me of backpedaling or lying. lol DidΒ say she spoke positively about Hamas? Yes or no? Yes you are. And gaslighting. Enough already.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 17:35:08 GMT
You can be disingenuous and claim that in no way does that quote suggest you believe Kiwi to be a supporter of or advocate for Hamas. A supporter or advocate generally does feel, think, or speak positively about that which they support or advocate, but if you know of any examples where that isn't the case, feel free to cite them. disΒ·inΒ·genΒ·uΒ·ous /ΛdisΙnΛjenyΙwΙs/ adjective not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. "he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical"Most of us know it when we see it. Brilliant, since I already said I implied she supported Hamas, what specifically am I lying about? You keep stating you haven't said she spoke positively about them. And you haven't made the direct statement of "Kiwi speaks positively of Hamas", but, once more, name someone you know of who supports an organization (as you admit you've said she does) who does not speak positively of that organization. You're trying to use lawyerspeak here, but it isn't working for you. Otherwise known as 'lying by implication'. philarchive.org/archive/JESALA-6
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 22:11:25 GMT
Brilliant, since I already said I implied she supported Hamas, what specifically am I lying about? You keep stating you haven't said she spoke positively about them. And you haven't made the direct statement of "Kiwi speaks positively of Hamas", but, once more, name someone you know of who supports an organization (as you admit you've said she does) who does not speak positively of that organization. You're trying to use lawyerspeak here, but it isn't working for you. Otherwise known as 'lying by implication'. philarchive.org/archive/JESALA-6Yes, I keep stating that because I haven't claimed it. What part of that confused you? And the problem with this new debate term you've found, is its not really applicable to an obviously false statement, you clown. How exactly is what I said an attempt to deceive by false implication? Do you think I think saying something obviously made up is a deliberate attempt to make people believe a lie? Just admit you can't name any lie I've told and move on.
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 22:12:14 GMT
No, I'm not. This is what you lot do every time. You claim I said something that none of you can show me saying, then accuse me of backpedaling or lying. lol Did say she spoke positively about Hamas? Yes or no? Yes you are. And gaslighting. Enough already. Gaslighting huh? What specifically am I trying to make you think didn't happen when it did? Name the lie I told or move on.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 22:46:11 GMT
You keep stating you haven't said she spoke positively about them. And you haven't made the direct statement of "Kiwi speaks positively of Hamas", but, once more, name someone you know of who supports an organization (as you admit you've said she does) who does not speak positively of that organization. You're trying to use lawyerspeak here, but it isn't working for you. Otherwise known as 'lying by implication'. philarchive.org/archive/JESALA-6Yes, I keep stating that because I haven't claimed it. What part of that confused you? And the problem with this new debate term you've found, is its not really applicable to an obviously false statement, you clown. How exactly is what I said an attempt to deceive by false implication? Do you think I think saying something obviously made up is a deliberate attempt to make people believe a lie? Just admit you can't name any lie I've told and move on. Just admit you plainly implied that Kiwi was an admirer of Hamas when stating she supported it, and making a snide crack about 'memorabilia'. The only one wearing the clown paint here is you, in repeatedly making half-assed pretzel-twist assertions that you didn't. Move on yourself, asshat.
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 22:51:41 GMT
Yes, I keep stating that because I haven't claimed it. What part of that confused you? And the problem with this new debate term you've found, is its not really applicable to an obviously false statement, you clown. How exactly is what I said an attempt to deceive by false implication? Do you think I think saying something obviously made up is a deliberate attempt to make people believe a lie? Just admit you can't name any lie I've told and move on. Just admit you plainly implied that Kiwi was an admirer of Hamas when stating she supported it, and making a snide crack about 'memorabilia'. The only one wearing the clown paint here is you, in repeatedly making half-assed pretzel-twist assertions that you didn't. Move on yourself, asshat. I said I implied that two days ago, Amy. That was specifically my intention. Because I believe that Kiwi supports Hamas. Specifically what lie have I told?
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 22:52:53 GMT
Just admit you plainly implied that Kiwi was an admirer of Hamas when stating she supported it, and making a snide crack about 'memorabilia'. The only one wearing the clown paint here is you, in repeatedly making half-assed pretzel-twist assertions that you didn't. Move on yourself, asshat. I said I implied that two days ago, Amy. That was specifically my intention. Because I believe that Kiwi supports Hamas. Specifically what lie have I told? Oh, please. Die on some other hill for a while. Your corpse is starting to stink up this one.
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Post by thorshairspray on Nov 22, 2024 22:54:56 GMT
I said I implied that two days ago, Amy. That was specifically my intention. Because I believe that Kiwi supports Hamas. Specifically what lie have I told? Oh, please. Die on some other hill for a while. Your corpse is starting to stink up this one. SO just to clarify, you have accused me multiple times of lying, but you cannot say what lie I have told. Who exactly is dying on a hill here, Amy?
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Post by amyghost on Nov 22, 2024 22:59:31 GMT
Oh, please. Die on some other hill for a while. Your corpse is starting to stink up this one. SO just to clarify, you have accused me multiple times of lying, but you cannot say what lie I have told. Who exactly is dying on a hill here, Amy? At this point, the word for the day for you is : Whatever. You've lied, know you've lied, know all here know you've lied, and yet you keep believing you can persuade one and all you haven't. Come to the US and run for political office. You have a bright future ahead of you here.
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