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Post by ayatollah on Apr 27, 2024 17:54:13 GMT
No, AfD isn't even close to a Nazi party, but I'm sure Nobbi will say they are, but you know "Nazi" is just a perjorative, everyone from Trump to the Columbia University protestors are Nazis. AfD doesn't want Germany under US hegemony, they'd like to maintain a German identity. They're not banning free speech or political parties, much less gassing people. Bullshit. They have a significant amount, the majority even, of textbook nazis in their leadership and ranks, there is a whole wing called "der Flügel" dedicated to full blown nazi crap. Björn Höcke, founder and former leader was active in the now forbidden NPD, the Nazi Party. This isnt the US, dont try to apply your silly culture war logic her, not gonna work. So they want to ban opposition parties and murder their opponents?
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Post by furor teutonicus on Apr 27, 2024 17:57:05 GMT
Bullshit. They have a significant amount, the majority even, of textbook nazis in their leadership and ranks, there is a whole wing called "der Flügel" dedicated to full blown nazi crap. Björn Höcke, founder and former leader was active in the now forbidden NPD, the Nazi Party. This isnt the US, dont try to apply your silly culture war logic her, not gonna work. So they want to ban opposition parties and murder their opponents? And genocide and a nice arian cleansing.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 27, 2024 18:01:16 GMT
So they want to ban opposition parties and murder their opponents? And genocide and a nice arian cleansing. Any proof this is an AfD goal?
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Post by furor teutonicus on Apr 27, 2024 18:06:13 GMT
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 27, 2024 18:30:29 GMT
I didn't see anything there other than someone accusing them of being "extremist", which really just means "disagree with establishment", which is exactly what "alternative" is about. Let me know when they want to invade other countries and murder their opposition.
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Post by furor teutonicus on Apr 28, 2024 7:07:23 GMT
I didn't see anything there other than someone accusing them of being "extremist", which really just means "disagree with establishment", which is exactly what "alternative" is about. Let me know when they want to invade other countries and murder their opposition. Yeah, and that's exactly how it not works here, but your partisan programmed brain doesn't allow you to realize "the establishment" and all this culture war bogus is not a thing at all here. There is no "the establishment" when you have tons of competing parties, independent free journalism and working democratic processes where each party is watching the others closely and most if not all attempts at illegal lobbying are suffocated at its core with all the strict regulatiosn regarding it, see OP.
Which is also one of the reasons why the AfD is scrutinized right now. And here is just one of the accusations several AfD Leaders are currently facing, for all the others, google it your self if you are interested.
He literally imitates Hitlers speeches and style all the time, sometimes phrases
Nothing wrong with using holocaust denial and nazi slogans as german politician because "MUH FREE SPEECH" right...
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 28, 2024 13:29:57 GMT
I didn't see anything there other than someone accusing them of being "extremist", which really just means "disagree with establishment", which is exactly what "alternative" is about. Let me know when they want to invade other countries and murder their opposition. Yeah, and that's exactly how it not works here, but your partisan programmed brain doesn't allow you to realize "the establishment" and all this culture war bogus is not a thing at all here. There is no "the establishment" when you have tons of competing parties, independent free journalism and working democratic processes where each party is watching the others closely and most if not all attempts at illegal lobbying are suffocated at its core with all the strict regulatiosn regarding it, see OP.
Which is also one of the reasons why the AfD is scrutinized right now. And here is just one of the accusations several AfD Leaders are currently facing, for all the others, google it your self if you are interested.
He literally imitates Hitlers speeches and style all the time, sometimes phrases
Nothing wrong with using holocaust denial and nazi slogans as german politician because "MUH FREE SPEECH" right...
You haven't proven anything, once again. You're just accusing them without evidence and insulting me for questioning you. Oddly, that's Nazi like tactics.
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Post by furor teutonicus on Apr 28, 2024 16:43:05 GMT
Yeah, and that's exactly how it not works here, but your partisan programmed brain doesn't allow you to realize "the establishment" and all this culture war bogus is not a thing at all here. There is no "the establishment" when you have tons of competing parties, independent free journalism and working democratic processes where each party is watching the others closely and most if not all attempts at illegal lobbying are suffocated at its core with all the strict regulatiosn regarding it, see OP.
Which is also one of the reasons why the AfD is scrutinized right now. And here is just one of the accusations several AfD Leaders are currently facing, for all the others, google it your self if you are interested.
He literally imitates Hitlers speeches and style all the time, sometimes phrases
Nothing wrong with using holocaust denial and nazi slogans as german politician because "MUH FREE SPEECH" right...
You haven't proven anything, once again. You're just accusing them without evidence and insulting me for questioning you. Oddly, that's Nazi like tactics. Yeah the lawsuits are just all fun and games, DAMN ESTABLISHMENT...
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Post by Lux on Apr 28, 2024 16:49:09 GMT
Some users on the board come from the most batshit crazy families. Wow.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 28, 2024 17:26:38 GMT
You haven't proven anything, once again. You're just accusing them without evidence and insulting me for questioning you. Oddly, that's Nazi like tactics. Yeah the lawsuits are just all fun and games, DAMN ESTABLISHMENT... Yes, it's bullshit. Hitler didn't allow smoking ...AfD won't allow smoking in their offices. Oooo, they're Hitlers! It's really because they oppose the neoliberal US empire. If you do that AND you're politically viable (getting above a certain percentage of the vote) this shit happens.
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Post by furor teutonicus on Apr 28, 2024 18:37:47 GMT
Yeah the lawsuits are just all fun and games, DAMN ESTABLISHMENT... Yes, it's bullshit. Hitler didn't allow smoking ...AfD won't allow smoking in their offices. Oooo, they're Hitlers! It's really because they oppose the neoliberal US empire. If you do that AND you're politically viable (getting above a certain percentage of the vote) this shit happens. Still not gonna work.
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Post by notoriousnobbi on Apr 28, 2024 19:13:37 GMT
That would be a backhanded compliment but nobody here said anything like that. This is just "You're racist even if nothing you're doing is racist". AfD is basically the legal version of the Nazi party as the latter has been outlawed in Germany. Any germans can confirm? notoriousnobbiIt would be one step too far to claim that the AfD is a Nazi party in general... yet. It had started as an anti-Euro party and has been hijacked by more and more rightwing radicals in the meantime. You can measure how radical it is by having a look at who left it in the meantime bc it became too radical to them: Lucke, Petry, Junge, ... And now the situation in the different federal states is different: in some states the AfD is too torn inside to become a danger, in others it is only one step away of becoming a Nazi party. ayatollahYour simplified way of how to determine whether a party is a Nazi party is... not really helpful. By the way: the process about the "Reichsbürger Coup" has just started, this shows how dangerous it is not having a close eye on what happens at the farright wings. The Reichsbürger Coup: How the German COVID-19 Denier Scene and Anti-Lockdown Movement Became a Breeding Ground for Terrorism gnet-research.org/2023/01/18/the-reichsburger-coup-how-the-german-covid-19-denier-scene-and-anti-lockdown-movement-became-a-breeding-ground-for-terrorism/ The December 2022 German Reichsbürger Plot to Overthrow the German Government ctc.westpoint.edu/the-december-2022-german-reichsburger-plot-to-overthrow-the-german-government/
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Post by thorshairspray on Apr 28, 2024 21:00:09 GMT
Good to see the "Literal Nazis" teaming up with their old allies, the Communists and the Russians.....
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Post by cts1 on Apr 28, 2024 21:42:31 GMT
I would be shocked if they weren't a Russian asset.
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 28, 2024 22:03:34 GMT
Good to see the "Literal Nazis" teaming up with their old allies, the Communists and the Russians..... You're a fool if you can't support AfD. They're Germany's only hope from being overwhelmed by immigrants.
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