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Post by bartlesby on Jul 29, 2021 21:12:57 GMT
No, I'm not presenting a puzzle. At some point in my past, I ran across this site:  tactics.chessbase.com/en/SolveThe puzzles range in difficulty from "ridiculous" to "not so easy" to whatever made up difficulty the person who made it decided it to be. It doesn't matter in the slightest; it's all a farce. My question is, what is this bullshit? Most of the solutions are rock-simple, the difficulty rankings are arbitrary, and if you can't solve one immediately, it's only because the best move gets tut-tutted by Newman from Jurassic Park because the person who made the puzzle didn't see it. I call bollocks. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 30, 2021 6:46:32 GMT
I can see a black win in two moves, but not one.
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Post by bartlesby on Jul 30, 2021 7:36:50 GMT
I can see a black win in two moves, but not one. It's not always done in one move. What is your solution? |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 31, 2021 6:36:12 GMT
I can see a black win in two moves, but not one. It's not always done in one move. What is your solution? I'm looking at it again and this time I cant even see a black win in two moves. Don't tell me! But there's definitely a black win in one move, right? |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 31, 2021 8:25:25 GMT
I disagree that black is going to win.
White is going to win by following this:
- queen to D8
- rook to E8
- queen to B6
I can't see anything that black can do that will interrupt those moves other than queen to B3, but then king moves to A1 and black is stuck.
But... what did I miss?
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Post by bartlesby on Jul 31, 2021 10:41:25 GMT
I disagree that black is going to win. White is going to win by following this: - queen to D8 - rook to E8 - queen to B6 I can't see anything that black can do that will interrupt those moves other than queen to B3, but then king moves to A1 and black is stuck. But... what did I miss? It's black's turn in this scenario. Also, that's going to take two moves to set up with no captures and cost you your queen for no reason. But even if it was white's turn, let's say you moved queen to D8. The setup for black is the same: Black Queen to B3. Check. White King moves to A1. (No other move). Black Queen to D1. Check. White King moves to A2. (No other move). Black Queen to B1. Checkmate. Even if white is assumed to be moving towards the top of the board, and you block the D1 check with the pawn, the end result is the same. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Jul 31, 2021 11:01:23 GMT
I disagree that black is going to win. White is going to win by following this: - queen to D8 - rook to E8 - queen to B6 I can't see anything that black can do that will interrupt those moves other than queen to B3, but then king moves to A1 and black is stuck. But... what did I miss? It's black's turn in this scenario. Also, that's going to take two moves to set up with no captures and cost you your queen for no reason. But even if it was white's turn, let's say you moved queen to D8. The setup for black is the same: Black Queen to B3. Check. White King moves to A1. (No other move). Black Queen to D1. Check. White King moves to A2. (No other move). Black Queen to B1. Checkmate. Even if white is assumed to be moving towards the top of the board, and you block the D1 check with the pawn, the end result is the same. Oh bollocks to that - "black to move and win" implies winning in a single move. |
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Post by bartlesby on Jul 31, 2021 11:21:41 GMT
It's black's turn in this scenario. Also, that's going to take two moves to set up with no captures and cost you your queen for no reason. But even if it was white's turn, let's say you moved queen to D8. The setup for black is the same: Black Queen to B3. Check. White King moves to A1. (No other move). Black Queen to D1. Check. White King moves to A2. (No other move). Black Queen to B1. Checkmate. Even if white is assumed to be moving towards the top of the board, and you block the D1 check with the pawn, the end result is the same. Oh bollocks to that - "black to move and win" implies winning in a single move. Well, I already said these puzzles are bollocks, but it just means moving into position where a win is certain. Black can't lose if they make those moves and white can't do anything to prevent them. It is interesting to think about, though, if it were white's turn. White's only good move, if it were their turn, is white bishop to F7 to stall the checkmate. I'm going to assume black is moving towards the top in this scenario, since you're playing as black, so black's next play would be queen to G1 to set up the checkmate in one turn. White would then move rook to E1 to threaten the queen and block the checkmate again. Black queen would have to retreat, probably taking the white pawn capture on D4. White's still in a bad spot, though. The white king is protected so black's offensive has stalled, but it's going to be difficult to work into a position where you can pressure black. The board would look like this:  It being their turn, how does white turn that into a win or a draw? I don't think it's possible. |
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Post by hugsfromlv426 on May 20, 2022 18:22:36 GMT
No, I'm not presenting a puzzle. At some point in my past, I ran across this site: The puzzles range in difficulty from "ridiculous" to "not so easy" to whatever made up difficulty the person who made it decided it to be. It doesn't matter in the slightest; it's all a farce. My question is, what is this bullshit? Most of the solutions are rock-simple, the difficulty rankings are arbitrary, and if you can't solve one immediately, it's only because the best move gets tut-tutted by Newman from Jurassic Park because the person who made the puzzle didn't see it. I call bollocks. The computer really does cheat anyway. |
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Post by yggdrasil on May 31, 2022 10:45:07 GMT
It's black's turn in this scenario. Also, that's going to take two moves to set up with no captures and cost you your queen for no reason. But even if it was white's turn, let's say you moved queen to D8. The setup for black is the same: Black Queen to B3. Check. White King moves to A1. (No other move). Black Queen to D1. Check. White King moves to A2. (No other move). Black Queen to B1. Checkmate. Even if white is assumed to be moving towards the top of the board, and you block the D1 check with the pawn, the end result is the same. Oh bollocks to that - "black to move and win" implies winning in a single move. I would assume that Black queen to B3 would mean an instant resignation which is the win in 1 move. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on May 31, 2022 10:48:03 GMT
Oh bollocks to that - "black to move and win" implies winning in a single move. I would assume that Black queen to B3 would mean an instant resignation which is the win in 1 move. I think we've all assumed a lot about instant resignations recently but they haven't panned out.... |
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