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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 27, 2021 6:58:54 GMT
That just leads to more and more diseases and environmental destruction. Far better to limit all to two children. Ethnic Russians are doing that and more already, their birthrates are well below replacement. All it's leading to is people who refuse to limit family size multiplying and ultimately becoming the majority. Your plan is self defeating. How come it worked in china? |
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 27, 2021 7:09:08 GMT
Ethnic Russians are doing that and more already, their birthrates are well below replacement. All it's leading to is people who refuse to limit family size multiplying and ultimately becoming the majority. Your plan is self defeating. How come it worked in china? They don't allow immigration, and they sterilize Ughyurs, put them in concentration camps, do all they can to make their existence difficult. In the west we make our existence difficult. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 27, 2021 7:14:31 GMT
How come it worked in china? They don't allow immigration, and they sterilize Ughyurs, put them in concentration camps, do all they can to make their existence difficult. In the west we make our existence difficult. I mean it worked among the chinese population. So why couldn't it work among others? |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 27, 2021 9:33:01 GMT
I don't call for higher child rates to out breed other people though like you and your chum, do. You see, that's the difference. No, you outbreed "others" with immigration. Which is usually higher breeding too. You suddenly develop this revulsion for it when those others try to do it back at you. We have set immigration levels by the Government and have to obey international law as regards "asylum seekers" who turn up on our shores. Our Government is not trying to "replace" us as you ridiculously believe your own government is. As for Hitler style breeding programmes, I believe most people viewed them with revulsion. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 27, 2021 9:44:16 GMT
No, you outbreed "others" with immigration. Which is usually higher breeding too. You suddenly develop this revulsion for it when those others try to do it back at you. We have set immigration levels by the Government and have to obey international law as regards "asylum seekers" who turn up on our shores. Our Government is not trying to "replace" us as you ridiculously believe your own government is. As for Hitler style breeding programmes, I believe most people viewed them with revulsion. They are a mile off France, sometimes less, not "at our shores". I don't see them as asylum seekers - they are financial seekers who are willing to recklessly endanger themselves or their children purely for financial gain. There's no need to cross the channel for safety reasons - they are already safe. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 27, 2021 14:45:35 GMT
We have set immigration levels by the Government and have to obey international law as regards "asylum seekers" who turn up on our shores. Our Government is not trying to "replace" us as you ridiculously believe your own government is. As for Hitler style breeding programmes, I believe most people viewed them with revulsion. They are a mile off France, sometimes less, not "at our shores". I don't see them as asylum seekers - they are financial seekers who are willing to recklessly endanger themselves or their children purely for financial gain. There's no need to cross the channel for safety reasons - they are already safe. Probably most are economic migrants, difficult to judge and the Government doesn't give those figures that I can find. I saw someone claim about the deaths in the channel that "these people are desperate" and that is just bollocks, I know it's France but there's really no excuse to risk life and limb to leave there and get to our shores. It's said that it's a language thing or they have relatives here, but if that's so they can claim asylum in France and then apply after that is granted to come to the UK. I feel for France, because 90% of people should have applied for asylum elsewhere before they even reached France, they are only there as a stepping stone to attempt to reach the UK. What is needed is a law to make ALL asylum seekers apply for asylum in a general clearing house and then an agreement between nations to accept x amount of successful applicants based on size etc. I find it hard to have too much sympathy for financial immigrants as they should really be attempting to improve things in their own back yards and in leaving they make things worse for their less mobile countrymen. |
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 27, 2021 17:57:28 GMT
No, you outbreed "others" with immigration. Which is usually higher breeding too. You suddenly develop this revulsion for it when those others try to do it back at you. We have set immigration levels by the Government and have to obey international law as regards "asylum seekers" who turn up on our shores. Our Government is not trying to "replace" us as you ridiculously believe your own government is. As for Hitler style breeding programmes, I believe most people viewed them with revulsion. Things like the Abundant Birth Project, the California Preterm Birth Initiative and Voices for Birth Justice are what? I certainly don't see a problem with ethnic Russians doing that. Of course you do though, things like that are fine depending on who's babies are being born. |
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 27, 2021 17:58:58 GMT
They don't allow immigration, and they sterilize Ughyurs, put them in concentration camps, do all they can to make their existence difficult. In the west we make our existence difficult. I mean it worked among the chinese population. So why couldn't it work among others? Because we already have birthrates below replacement level. Supposedly so low we need mass migration to keep the economy supplied with workers. |
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Post by papamihel on Dec 27, 2021 18:13:21 GMT
Russia has the worst written laws about offending beliefs - there is literally nothing that doesn't offend someone according to the law.
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 27, 2021 20:59:04 GMT
Russia has the worst written laws about offending beliefs - there is literally nothing that doesn't offend someone according to the law. Do you think it's open ended on purpose? |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 7:53:49 GMT
I mean it worked among the chinese population. So why couldn't it work among others? Because we already have birthrates below replacement level. Supposedly so low we need mass migration to keep the economy supplied with workers. Above you were saying there are "people who refuse to limit family size" who are "multiplying and ultimately becoming the majority". Why couldn't it work among them? What I'm driving at is that if you implement it correctly, it should work among anyone. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 10:36:46 GMT
I mean it worked among the chinese population. So why couldn't it work among others? Because we already have birthrates below replacement level. Supposedly so low we need mass migration to keep the economy supplied with workers. What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 10:44:46 GMT
Because we already have birthrates below replacement level. Supposedly so low we need mass migration to keep the economy supplied with workers. What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? In that context, replacement simply means having enough children so that a couple put two children in place to replace them when they die, so the population doesn't shrink. With birth-rates at around 1.9 per couple, parents are not being fully replaced. This has nothing to do with race, despite your prejudiced leap towards that conclusion. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 10:52:25 GMT
What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? In that context, replacement simply means having enough children so that a couple put two children in place to replace them when they die, so the population doesn't shrink. With birth-rates at around 1.9 per couple, parents are not being fully replaced. This has nothing to do with race, despite your prejudiced leap towards that conclusion. No I was specifically asking about the conspiracy theory he believes that "elites" (those shadows people) are purposely replacing white people with foreigners for some unspecific evil reason to get rid of the white race. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 10:58:06 GMT
In that context, replacement simply means having enough children so that a couple put two children in place to replace them when they die, so the population doesn't shrink. With birth-rates at around 1.9 per couple, parents are not being fully replaced. This has nothing to do with race, despite your prejudiced leap towards that conclusion. No I was specifically asking about the conspiracy theory he believes that "elites" (those shadows people) are purposely replacing white people with foreigners for some unspecific evil reason to get rid of the white race. Yes, but that is not what he referring to when he said 'replacement'. Different type of replacement. Unless you are tangentising the conversation, in which case, carry on. |
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