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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 11:01:54 GMT
What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? In that context, replacement simply means having enough children so that a couple put two children in place to replace them when they die, so the population doesn't shrink. With birth-rates at around 1.9 per couple, parents are not being fully replaced. This has nothing to do with race, despite your prejudiced leap towards that conclusion. It does have to do with race and religion as certain of those have bigger families through beliefs in things such as contraception or even down to the concept of a mothers place being to stay home and raise children. In the West, down to many reasons such as finance, you now need two people working full time to afford property, so families are put off until potential parents are much older and can "afford" them, also younger people tend to be less likely to make sacrifices to have children and don't want to give up holidays, going out etc, so again put off families until they get more mature and their priorities change (late 20's). The exception is the poorest in society who tend to have much higher birth rates but will rely more on public housing and benefits and are probably the ones you would prefer not to be breeding in high numbers. To achieve higher rates in the West you need to return to a society where a single man's wage will support a household with a woman staying at home which would require much cheaper housing and much higher wages and that's if you could go back to where women's roles were considered to be purely house keeping and child rearing which women would now be deeply offended by. It's just the changing world, and I would probably see religion and finance as the biggest drivers in that change.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 11:03:07 GMT
No I was specifically asking about the conspiracy theory he believes that "elites" (those shadows people) are purposely replacing white people with foreigners for some unspecific evil reason to get rid of the white race. Yes, but that is not what he referring to when he said 'replacement'. Different type of replacement. Unless you are tangentising the conversation, in which case, carry on. Yes, it probably was a tangent and I apologise for it, just took the chance to try and understand why he believes this supremacist stuff.
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 28, 2021 17:18:25 GMT
Because we already have birthrates below replacement level. Supposedly so low we need mass migration to keep the economy supplied with workers. What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? If replacement is a conspiracy theory then why is it happening?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 29, 2021 11:38:10 GMT
What is it with you and this "replacement" nonsense, you obviously know it's a white supremacist conspiracy theory, why are you so obsessed with it? If replacement is a conspiracy theory then why is it happening? I don't think anyone denies that it's happening - the numbers prove it. What they dispute is whether it's a deliberate plot or not. yggdrasil may care to comment.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 29, 2021 13:42:54 GMT
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 29, 2021 14:00:41 GMT
I don't think anyone denies that it's happening - the numbers prove it. What they dispute is whether it's a deliberate plot or not. yggdrasil may care to comment. That's what I am asking him, why he believes that a group of people are deliberately trying to replace white people. It is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. But you don't know that. It might be true, it might be not.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 29, 2021 14:15:51 GMT
That's what I am asking him, why he believes that a group of people are deliberately trying to replace white people. It is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. But you don't know that. It might be true, it might be not. All "conspiracy theories" MAY be true if you want to get that ridiculous. We never went to the moon for example, Kubrik did it in a film studio.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 29, 2021 14:20:51 GMT
But you don't know that. It might be true, it might be not. All "conspiracy theories" MAY be true if you want to get that ridiculous. We never went to the moon for example, Kubrik did it in a film studio. Fine, you think it's ridiculous. I simply look at the facts. You don't know either way.
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 29, 2021 14:45:07 GMT
Ah, was John, not Robert.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 29, 2021 15:10:34 GMT
Ah, was John, not Robert. Should this be on the TV thread?
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Post by papamihel on Dec 30, 2021 4:34:48 GMT
Russia has the worst written laws about offending beliefs - there is literally nothing that doesn't offend someone according to the law. Do you think it's open ended on purpose? Absolutely. Russia is a "border" culture and this is - classic Eastern despotism shit. When laws are contradictory or (in theory) prohibit everything, the subjects are fully dependent on the good will of their rulers.
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 30, 2021 4:43:57 GMT
Do you think it's open ended on purpose? Absolutely. Russia is a "border" culture and this is - classic Eastern despotism shit. When laws are contradictory or (in theory) prohibit everything, the subjects are fully dependent on the good will of their rulers. I worry about this happening here, there are so many laws and they're complicated and seem to depend heavily on interpretation. It's like a slow march into "rule of men". I've heard people say that every new law should be balanced with one repealed. It seems a little silly but I agree with the spirit.
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Post by papamihel on Dec 30, 2021 4:50:58 GMT
Absolutely. Russia is a "border" culture and this is - classic Eastern despotism shit. When laws are contradictory or (in theory) prohibit everything, the subjects are fully dependent on the good will of their rulers. I worry about this happening here, there are so many laws and they're complicated and seem to depend heavily on interpretation. It's like a slow march into "rule of men". I've heard people say that every new law should be balanced with one repealed. It seems a little silly but I agree with the spirit. Western countries get a lot of laws because the Left-er side of the political spectrum believe that making laws equals doing\creating. There is no tradition of cherry-picking which laws apply to which people. Yet. Actually, no... They did that during the "Russian collusion" "investigation" so you are getting there.
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Post by ayatollah on Dec 30, 2021 6:44:21 GMT
I worry about this happening here, there are so many laws and they're complicated and seem to depend heavily on interpretation. It's like a slow march into "rule of men". I've heard people say that every new law should be balanced with one repealed. It seems a little silly but I agree with the spirit. Western countries get a lot of laws because the Left-er side of the political spectrum believe that making laws equals doing\creating. There is no tradition of cherry-picking which laws apply to which people. Yet. Actually, no... They did that during the "Russian collusion" "investigation" so you are getting there. I was afraid of that. I almost wish you hadn't said it.
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