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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 10:39:13 GMT
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 27, 2021 14:28:27 GMT
I saw Benn give a speech many years ago in a small room, was electrifying.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 8:44:12 GMT
I saw Benn give a speech many years ago in a small room, was electrifying. Wow, you're very lucky to have heard the great man speak in person. Must have been amazing. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 9:01:59 GMT
I saw Benn give a speech many years ago in a small room, was electrifying. Wow, you're very lucky to have heard the great man speak in person. Must have been amazing. Absolutely - listening to Westminster-born, privately-educated viscounts pretending to sympathise with the poor must be amazing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 9:05:20 GMT
Wow, you're very lucky to have heard the great man speak in person. Must have been amazing. Absolutely - listening to Westminster-born, privately-educated viscounts pretending to sympathise with the poor must be amazing. I thought he was pretty universally admired. There was no pretense with him, he was a rebel. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 9:13:34 GMT
Absolutely - listening to Westminster-born, privately-educated viscounts pretending to sympathise with the poor must be amazing. I thought he was pretty universally admired. There was no pretense with him, he was a rebel. I'm no expert on him but a cursory read suggests there may have been a plastic socialist element. Happy to be wrong about that, of course. I'm sure Yggdrasil will be along soon to give us one of his sermons. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 10:10:12 GMT
Anyone "plastic" seems to give it up and go for the private money after a while (Blair was the perfect example) people like Benn and Foot and Skinner gave their lives to their beliefs, same with people like Thatcher and some of the other odious Tories, their beliefs may have been an abomination but no one would call them career politicians which are all you tend to get nowadays.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 10:42:18 GMT
Anyone "plastic" seems to give it up and go for the private money after a while (Blair was the perfect example) people like Benn and Foot and Skinner gave their lives to their beliefs, same with people like Thatcher and some of the other odious Tories, their beliefs may have been an abomination but no one would call them career politicians which are all you tend to get nowadays. Viscount playing socialist? Sure. |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 10:45:04 GMT
Anyone "plastic" seems to give it up and go for the private money after a while (Blair was the perfect example) people like Benn and Foot and Skinner gave their lives to their beliefs, same with people like Thatcher and some of the other odious Tories, their beliefs may have been an abomination but no one would call them career politicians which are all you tend to get nowadays. Viscount playing socialist? Sure. Yeah, we get it, and Tories all hate the poor. There are exceptions in all parties outside your silly "black and white" world. Even IDS is trying to get something done about Chinese genocide although not getting far with Boris and co. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 10:51:15 GMT
Viscount playing socialist? Sure. Yeah, we get it, and Tories all hate the poor. According to you, yes. And the health service, and human rights and and and. I prefer to make decisions about things rather than live in a nondescript world where everything is grey and decision-less. IDS t-shirt for you! |
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Post by yggdrasil on Dec 28, 2021 11:06:28 GMT
Yeah, we get it, and Tories all hate the poor. According to you, yes. And the health service, and human rights and and and. I prefer to make decisions about things rather than live in a nondescript world where everything is grey and decision-less. IDS t-shirt for you! I have never ever claimed that ALL Tories hate the poor, source please. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Dec 28, 2021 11:17:15 GMT
According to you, yes. And the health service, and human rights and and and. I prefer to make decisions about things rather than live in a nondescript world where everything is grey and decision-less. IDS t-shirt for you! I have never ever claimed that ALL Tories hate the poor, source please. You've claimed that a lot of them certainly do and if you're going to play the semantics game between 'a lot' and 'all', well, good day to you. |
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