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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 2:36:03 GMT
1) I agree. 2) God doesn't care. Do whatever you want. People have always done what they wanted too. They don't need religion either in their lives to be considered a decent human being. I never said they did.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Sept 30, 2022 2:42:18 GMT
People have always done what they wanted too. They don't need religion either in their lives to be considered a decent human being. I never said they did. Then religion is not important, nor relevant in one's life.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 2:44:55 GMT
Then religion is not important, nor relevant in one's life. That is a personal decision. God is relevant to some people. Not relevant to others.
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Post by SixOfTheRichest on Sept 30, 2022 2:48:18 GMT
Then religion is not important, nor relevant in one's life. That is a personal decision. God is relevant to some people. Not relevant to others. Oh of course, but it comes down to the notion of what God is and how this belief is administered.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 2:50:27 GMT
That is a personal decision. God is relevant to some people. Not relevant to others. Oh of course, but it comes down to the notion of what God is and how this belief is administered. Absolutely.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Sept 30, 2022 9:05:22 GMT
The Bible and religion are not science or history. They are morals, ethics and spirituality.
1) There is a physical, empirically verifiable universe we are beings-in-time in or cosmos (we are born, we live we die) and a metaphysical cosmos were we have a greater or meta existence. This isn’t wu-wu science or religion, it’s basic Plato. Morals, ethics, spirituality, philosophy, art, literature, etc, though not their products, exist in a metaphysical cosmos, because they are of the human mind. Keep in mind these are Western concepts and not Eastern. Did God of the Holy Trinity create the physical (science) and metaphysical cosmos (includes religion) as separate or as one? To me science and religion are not incompatible. They are two different things.2) Neither religion nor science were created whole-cloth at the beginning of time. God may created everything but he didn’t create religion, that is a freewill product of the human mind. If God can do anything, then he can not exist. I think it much easier to believe in G-d, than God. 1) God created science. God doesn't create through magic. He creates through science. Everything had a scientific explanation. 2) I agree. Man created religion. I don't agree "If God can do anything, He cannot exist". “Science” is a human language used to interpret physical reality. We still have to use imaginary narratives to explain it to ourselves.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 12:24:40 GMT
1) God created science. God doesn't create through magic. He creates through science. Everything has a scientific explanation. 2) I agree. Man created religion. I don't agree "If God can do anything, He cannot exist". “Science” is a human language used to interpret physical reality. We still have to use imaginary narratives to explain it to ourselves. God created the physical reality. Human beings created the language we use to describe that physical reality.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Sept 30, 2022 12:28:06 GMT
“Science” is a human language used to interpret physical reality. We still have to use imaginary narratives to explain it to ourselves. God created the physical reality. Human beings created the language we use to describe that physical reality. Did God create metaphysical unreality?
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 12:31:48 GMT
God created the physical reality. Human beings created the language we use to describe that physical reality. Did God create metaphysical unreality? God created the reality. Humans created physics and metaphysics in an attempt to understand the reality.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Sept 30, 2022 12:44:04 GMT
Did God create metaphysical unreality? God created the reality. Humans created physics and metaphysics in an attempt to understand the reality. So the only proof you have of God is God’s creation of humans who have created an explanation of why there is something rather than nothing? Aka Cosmology. If so, does this mean the humans are the “gods” of the physics and the metaphysics? I’m not trying to be an asshole, I like where this Q&A is going. Have you read much of Gary Zukav and guys like him? What do you think of the Higgs Boson discovery?
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 12:47:12 GMT
God created the reality. Humans created physics and metaphysics in an attempt to understand the reality. So the only proof you have of God’s creation is what humans have created in explanation of why there is something rather than nothing? If so, does this mean the humans are the “gods” of the physics and the metaphysics? I’m not trying to be an asshole, I like where this Q&A is going. Have you read much of Gary Zukav and guys like him? What do you think of the Higgs Boson discovery? I never said I had any proof God exists. I don't believe there is any proof. No, never read Gary Zukav.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Sept 30, 2022 12:51:36 GMT
So the only proof you have of God’s creation is what humans have created in explanation of why there is something rather than nothing? If so, does this mean the humans are the “gods” of the physics and the metaphysics? I’m not trying to be an asshole, I like where this Q&A is going. Have you read much of Gary Zukav and guys like him? What do you think of the Higgs Boson discovery? I never said I had any proof God exists. I don't believe there is any proof. No, never read Gary Zukav. And the Higgs Boson?
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 13:01:42 GMT
I never said I had any proof God exists. I don't believe there is any proof. No, never read Gary Zukav. And the Higgs Boson? I'm not a physicist.
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Sept 30, 2022 16:11:03 GMT
That shouldn’t stop you from having an opinion about the God Particle. You are not curious? This is what I mean about religion cutting people off from wanting to explore ideas. You might be more invested in the dogma than you think.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 30, 2022 16:41:49 GMT
That shouldn’t stop you from having an opinion about the God Particle. You are not curious? This is what I mean about religion cutting people off from wanting to explore ideas. You might be more invested in the dogma than you think. Save me the Google search. What is the God particle?
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