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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 15:29:40 GMT
In the UK an Asian is usually someone who looks like an Indian or Arab etc and we say Oriental to describe the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc.
But the Yanks use Asian instead of Oriental.
Is Oriental bad now?
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 6, 2018 16:09:25 GMT
Some now consider oriental to be offensive when used to refer to a person. Maybe because it conjures up images of stereotyped buck-toothed 4-eyed chinamen:  Personally, I think the word 'person' when used to refer to a person is offensive. |
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Post by warlock on Jan 6, 2018 18:15:25 GMT
It's another one of the words the American Politically Correct crap deem to now be offensive. It's ridiculous when one thinks there are many words which depending on how they are used can be deemed offensive. It should only be deemed so dependent upon the context in which it is used, and this should be determined by the person using a word not the listener.
Plus you have words that have been twisted by slang. Eg. The word 'Faggot' has been twisted to refer to a gay person and seen as offensive and yet it actually has nothing to do with them as it is a Bundle of sticks used as kindling to start a fire. This of course led to the British slang term of 'Fag' referring to a cigarette, which Americans also see as a shorter version relating to gays.
I'll finish simply by pointing out the irony of my example, that 'Gay' originally never meant homosexual until the 1960's but referred to a lighthearted and carefree disposition.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 6, 2018 18:46:39 GMT
Eg. The word 'Faggot' has been twisted to refer to a gay person and seen as offensive and yet it actually has nothing to do with them as it is a Bundle of sticks used as kindling to start a fire. This of course led to the British slang term of 'Fag' referring to a cigarette, which Americans also see as a shorter version relating to gays. There's also this from the loonies in the west country:   What do you do on faggot Friday? |
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Post by warlock on Jan 6, 2018 22:40:16 GMT
Eg. The word 'Faggot' has been twisted to refer to a gay person and seen as offensive and yet it actually has nothing to do with them as it is a Bundle of sticks used as kindling to start a fire. This of course led to the British slang term of 'Fag' referring to a cigarette, which Americans also see as a shorter version relating to gays. There's also this from the loonies in the west country: What do you do on faggot Friday? Loonies aye. Daft as a brush. Go to San Francisco in U.S. or Soho in London and ask them what they do on faggot Friday. Just make sure you have a good pair of running shoes. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 7, 2018 0:00:33 GMT
Just how daft is a brush? |
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Post by warlock on Jan 7, 2018 1:18:26 GMT
Just how daft is a brush? When you poke with a wet brush, you dab. When you poke with a dry brush, you daff. These words are onomatopoeic. When a brush has been daffed a great deal, its bristles splay out in all directions. The brush is then called "daft" and it becomes practically useless. Someone who is daft as a brush is unable to direct their concentration properly to the matter in hand. Therefore they're Useless. Of course as a Brit you are bound to have already heard this expression and just acting daft. |
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 7, 2018 1:40:24 GMT
When you poke with a wet brush, you dab. When you poke with a dry brush, you daff. Where the fuck do you live that has words for poking with a wet brush or a dry brush? How much brush poking do you do that you need to differentiate the wetness of the brush and produce verbs to reflect this? WTF?? |
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Post by warlock on Jan 7, 2018 2:41:09 GMT
My grandmother spent many years working as a cleaning lady scrubbing floors in London before returning to her proper home in the North. Many words and expressions come from her. That you are unfamiliar with the use of such words and descriptions can only lead me to believe you are a relatively young man. The expression discussed originates from cleaning with brushes, both the physical and the name given to the Chimney Sweep boys that would climb into the chimney to clean them in olden times.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 7, 2018 13:07:40 GMT
My grandmother spent many years working as a cleaning lady scrubbing floors in London before returning to her proper home in the North. Many words and expressions come from her. That you are unfamiliar with the use of such words and descriptions can only lead me to believe you are a relatively young man. The expression discussed originates from cleaning with brushes, both the physical and the name given to the Chimney Sweep boys that would climb into the chimney to clean them in olden times. I can't find any reference to that. E.g. www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/as-daft-as-a-brush.html |
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Post by warlock on Jan 7, 2018 17:51:55 GMT
Any reference to what? The article in that link speaks of cleaning brushes and even mentions the Chimney Sweep boys I spoke of.
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Post by Flying Monkeys (Flying/Monkeys on Jan 7, 2018 17:57:13 GMT
Any reference to what? The article in that link speaks of cleaning brushes and even mentions the Chimney Sweep boys I spoke of. Reference to what you said - wet brush, dry brush, daffing and dabbing. |
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If itβs an ethnicity then Occidental should be one.
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Post by Prince Myshkin on Jun 3, 2018 15:30:57 GMT
We Yanks used to say "Oriental" too until PC came along.
But you made a huge faux pas. Ethnicity refers to a group tied closely by genes and a common language. Japanese is an ethnicity. Greek is an ethnicity. I guess "Oriental" was a race, not an ethnicity.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 10, 2019 22:34:30 GMT
I worked at a place where an attractive Arab girl (not in religious clothes) came in distressed saying some guy was following her. I checked outside and asked what he looked like because I saw a SE Asian guy out there. I said βdoes he look Asian?β She paused, struggling to describe his ethnicity. βI donβt knowβ, she said, βI always say βChinkyββ. LOL.
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