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Post by papamihel on Apr 30, 2023 14:38:02 GMT
I think they do. Maybe not in terms of mortality but certainly in terms of financial liability. They tend to operate within the framework of environmental laws. Which is more than we can say about most 3rd world countries. Oh, like in Nigeria? They have pretty standard issues: air pollution, water contamination, deforestation, waste disposal problems etc. Some are caused by bad governing, others are a combination of culture and poverty.
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Post by kiwi on Apr 30, 2023 14:43:14 GMT
Going by cultures present and past that permit gender identification outside of biological orthodoxy, transgenderism is nothing new. It was suppressed in Western culture due to Christianity. True. There's nothing new about this. For all of time there have been people leading lives of quiet desperation because there were no medical options for them and the condemnation of society would be tantamount to being exiled.
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Post by kiwi on Apr 30, 2023 14:44:29 GMT
these days. - Is it due to it being fashionable? No. - Is it due to the 'look at me' attention-seeking world that social media has created? No. - Is it because more people feel they can express themselves openly? No. Hmm. So how about this? - Nature is fed up with us destroying the planet and other species and wants us gone. What better way - and, critically, one of the few ways within its control - than rendering so many individuals non-reproductive? Think about that in your daily goings-on. One key thing to note - transgendering is highest, by far, among the people who do the most damage to the planet. Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not. Interesting. As a broad generalization? The entire world ecosystem is in a constant state of adjustment, and many an apex predator has ‘left the building’. As far as ‘trans topic’ goes, I have no opinion. I don’t really understand it, but I also have not much interest in it, anyway. Sexuality has been a mixed bag forever, the only thing what’s changed is medical practices. (I’m not much for it for children, though: those are decisions an adult must make for themself, as the ramifications are lifelong.) To the broader point of ‘nature’ and ‘’the human species’? I’ve always viewed Terence Malicks “Thin Red Line” as something of an essay on this subject. He juxtaposes images of natural cruelty, whether it’s vines strangling foliage, birds dying, crocs, and raging seas with the human ‘storm’ coming to destroy everything in its wake. Is man’s irrational behavior related, on some sort of ‘base level’ to hurricanes, tsunamis, plagues and the like? ⁉️ Interesting observation about "Thin Red Line". Now I want to see it again.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Apr 30, 2023 14:48:31 GMT
Interesting. As a broad generalization? The entire world ecosystem is in a constant state of adjustment, and many an apex predator has ‘left the building’. As far as ‘trans topic’ goes, I have no opinion. I don’t really understand it, but I also have not much interest in it, anyway. Sexuality has been a mixed bag forever, the only thing what’s changed is medical practices. (I’m not much for it for children, though: those are decisions an adult must make for themself, as the ramifications are lifelong.) To the broader point of ‘nature’ and ‘’the human species’? I’ve always viewed Terence Malicks “Thin Red Line” as something of an essay on this subject. He juxtaposes images of natural cruelty, whether it’s vines strangling foliage, birds dying, crocs, and raging seas with the human ‘storm’ coming to destroy everything in its wake. Is man’s irrational behavior related, on some sort of ‘base level’ to hurricanes, tsunamis, plagues and the like? ⁉️ Interesting observation about "Thin Red Line". Now I want to see it again. Its always what I got out of it. That and Pvt Witts desire to feel the ‘Grace and calm’ his Mom felt when she passed. Malicks films can be extremely difficult, but occasionally get very profound. IMO, of course! 😎
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Post by Just Casey on Apr 30, 2023 14:55:34 GMT
I think some do it to be different or troll. But, most are serious about it.
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Post by lunda2222 on Apr 30, 2023 14:56:19 GMT
Bollocks. Nothing humans are doing to nature is compatible with an ice age or a decent increase in solar activity. Nature survived both numerous times. Duh. Yes there is. Focus on the rate of change. When did an ice age come on in 50 years?And how long did those recoveries take? Hundreds of thousands of years at least. Please think things through a bit nore than yuyd average right winger before you get your bollocks out. 50? try 50 000 and you'd be closer to the mark.
"Predicted changes in orbital forcing suggest that the next glacial period would begin at least 50,000 years from now."
The last glacial period ended about 11 700 years so it obviously doesn't take hundreds of thousand years to recover either. But that depends on what you mean by recover and recover from.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 15:09:18 GMT
M. Night should do a sequel to The Happening with this premise. Every time people are exposed to the open air around trees or shrubs, they lob off their dicks or titties. Riots at pharmacies take place over HRT. He can call it The Transitioning.
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Apr 30, 2023 15:11:21 GMT
Duh. Yes there is. Focus on the rate of change. When did an ice age come on in 50 years?And how long did those recoveries take? Hundreds of thousands of years at least. Please think things through a bit nore than yuyd average right winger before you get your bollocks out. 50? try 50 000 and you'd be closer to the mark.
"Predicted changes in orbital forcing suggest that the next glacial period would begin at least 50,000 years from now."
The last glacial period ended about 11 700 years so it obviously doesn't take hundreds of thousand years to recover either. But that depends on what you mean by recover and recover from.
'Recover from' as in new species are present in similar numbers to before it happened.
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Post by lunda2222 on Apr 30, 2023 15:29:48 GMT
50? try 50 000 and you'd be closer to the mark.
"Predicted changes in orbital forcing suggest that the next glacial period would begin at least 50,000 years from now."
The last glacial period ended about 11 700 years so it obviously doesn't take hundreds of thousand years to recover either. But that depends on what you mean by recover and recover from.
'Recover from' as in new species are present in similar numbers to before it happened. Ah, but here we have a problem.
We don't know how many species we had before the Ice Age (I'm using the entire last Ice Age here, not just the last glacial period) or the number in each species. The Ice Age started roughly 2.4 million years ago and it has been at least 8 glacial periods in the present ice age.
The glaciers wiped out most of the fossil records we have from that period before the Ice Age. But yes, the estimates are in the several hundred of thousands to a million years. And that's after this Ice Age ends, which can be in as long as a hundred million years from now. Yes, that's generally how long the previous Ice Ages (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, late Paleozoic) have lasted.
Kind of boggles the mind, huh?
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Post by ayatollah on Apr 30, 2023 15:30:52 GMT
these days. - Is it due to it being fashionable? No. - Is it due to the 'look at me' attention-seeking world that social media has created? No. - Is it because more people feel they can express themselves openly? No. Hmm. So how about this? - Nature is fed up with us destroying the planet and other species and wants us gone. What better way - and, critically, one of the few ways within its control - than rendering so many individuals non-reproductive? Think about that in your daily goings-on. One key thing to note - transgendering is highest, by far, among the people who do the most damage to the planet. Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not. So nature has some sort of voodoo that makes people act a certain way?
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Apr 30, 2023 15:45:27 GMT
'Recover from' as in new species are present in similar numbers to before it happened. Ah, but here we have a problem.
We don't know how many species we had before the Ice Age (I'm using the entire last Ice Age here, not just the last glacial period) or the number in each species. The Ice Age started roughly 2.4 million years ago and it has been at least 8 glacial periods in the present ice age.
The glaciers wiped out most of the fossil records we have from that period before the Ice Age. But yes, the estimates are in the several hundred of thousands to a million years. And that's after this Ice Age ends, which can be in as long as a hundred million years from now. Yes, that's generally how long the previous Ice Ages (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, late Paleozoic) have lasted.
Kind of boggles the mind, huh?
Yes. According to some on here, it'll all be just fine by middle of next week. Pifflous rot, I tell you!
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Post by Flying Monkeys on Apr 30, 2023 15:46:06 GMT
these days. - Is it due to it being fashionable? No. - Is it due to the 'look at me' attention-seeking world that social media has created? No. - Is it because more people feel they can express themselves openly? No. Hmm. So how about this? - Nature is fed up with us destroying the planet and other species and wants us gone. What better way - and, critically, one of the few ways within its control - than rendering so many individuals non-reproductive? Think about that in your daily goings-on. One key thing to note - transgendering is highest, by far, among the people who do the most damage to the planet. Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe not. So nature has some sort of voodoo that makes people act a certain way? Yes - evolution.
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Post by lunda2222 on Apr 30, 2023 15:49:02 GMT
Ah, but here we have a problem.
We don't know how many species we had before the Ice Age (I'm using the entire last Ice Age here, not just the last glacial period) or the number in each species. The Ice Age started roughly 2.4 million years ago and it has been at least 8 glacial periods in the present ice age.
The glaciers wiped out most of the fossil records we have from that period before the Ice Age. But yes, the estimates are in the several hundred of thousands to a million years. And that's after this Ice Age ends, which can be in as long as a hundred million years from now. Yes, that's generally how long the previous Ice Ages (the Huronian, Cryogenian, Andean-Saharan, late Paleozoic) have lasted.
Kind of boggles the mind, huh?
Yes. According to some on here, it'll all be just fine by middle of next week. Pifflous rot, I tell you! Ah, the power of positive thinking and a lot of ignorance (but to be fair we are into territory you would need at least a little bit of specialized knowledge to discuss)...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 16:39:00 GMT
If this apparently sentient nature wanted to bother and had the power, why wouldn't it just outright kill people? What would we do about it? File an angry letter? Trans people are overrepresented in mass shooters so that would explain keeping them alive. They'd kill people who can reproduce.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 16:41:56 GMT
It’s not nature doing it, it’s the species that are no longer in balance with it. Humans are clever enough to keep making adjustments to survive but time has run out. Nature never had balance in mind. It would have the strongest survive. I find it hard to believe that it presses its finger down on the scale when one species is too successful. It's not the strongest that survive. It's the ones most susceptible to change.
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