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Post by Meseia on May 10, 2023 19:58:51 GMT
It's for the children. tldr: The govt wants to make a commission of law enforcement that will see all your electronic communications before they are encrypted and sent to the recipient. The govt and law enforcement have been constantly attacking 4A. It was attacked twice under Trump and is under attack again. The EARN IT bill has been introduced before and failed, it's back again. It's meant to protect us from govt and law enforcement so it's important we don't allow them to erode or hand wave it away any more than they have. The commission will be a political appt, no judicial oversight. All companies would be required to adopt govt best practices and send electronic communications to them before being sent to the recipient. They claim it's to protect children but it's just another way to spy on Americans and take away our privacy, hence the, "and for other purposes," tacked on the end of it. Link to bill, S.1207 www.congress.gov/118/bills/s1207/BILLS-118s1207is.xml
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Post by ayatollah on May 10, 2023 20:02:20 GMT
This, the RESTRICT Act, similar state efforts, good God, they really do want us to be subjects without rights.
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Post by ayatollah on May 10, 2023 20:06:56 GMT
Sponsors look like they're mostly Republicans. I see Graham and Cruz and Hawley. Graham is really no surprise at all, that scumbag.
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Post by thekindercarebear on May 10, 2023 20:14:13 GMT
Boooooo 🤮
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Post by Pippen on May 10, 2023 20:30:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 20:36:08 GMT
Sponsors look like they're mostly Republicans. I see Graham and Cruz and Hawley. Graham is really no surprise at all, that scumbag. The only surprise is Graham found time from his efforts encouraging a full-fledged war with Russia to do this. He really is useless.
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Post by ayatollah on May 10, 2023 20:37:48 GMT
Sponsors look like they're mostly Republicans. I see Graham and Cruz and Hawley. Graham is really no surprise at all, that scumbag. The only surprise is Graham found time from his efforts encouraging a full-fledged war with Russia to do this. He really is useless. People like Graham hate Russia and China, but want us to be just like Russia and China. Am I the only person noticing this?
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Post by Hnefahogg on May 10, 2023 20:43:57 GMT
It's for the children. tldr: The govt wants to make a commission of law enforcement that will see all your electronic communications before they are encrypted and sent to the recipient. The govt and law enforcement have been constantly attacking 4A. It was attacked twice under Trump and is under attack again. The EARN IT bill has been introduced before and failed, it's back again. It's meant to protect us from govt and law enforcement so it's important we don't allow them to erode or hand wave it away any more than they have. The commission will be a political appt, no judicial oversight. All companies would be required to adopt govt best practices and send electronic communications to them before being sent to the recipient. They claim it's to protect children but it's just another way to spy on Americans and take away our privacy, hence the, "and for other purposes," tacked on the end of it. Link to bill, S.1207 www.congress.gov/118/bills/s1207/BILLS-118s1207is.xmlIsnt' that the case already? Not that it's a bad thing in this case, but this pedophile was arrested from his Google search on how to commit his crime. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12051989/Paedophile-28-Googled-lure-child-car-jailed-eight-years.html
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 20:46:45 GMT
Biden looking to finish what he started when he "wrote the first draft of the PATRIOT Act".
Sickening. I warned everyone not to vote for this sorry excuse of a man.
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Post by Meseia on May 10, 2023 20:54:33 GMT
It's for the children. tldr: The govt wants to make a commission of law enforcement that will see all your electronic communications before they are encrypted and sent to the recipient. The govt and law enforcement have been constantly attacking 4A. It was attacked twice under Trump and is under attack again. The EARN IT bill has been introduced before and failed, it's back again. It's meant to protect us from govt and law enforcement so it's important we don't allow them to erode or hand wave it away any more than they have. The commission will be a political appt, no judicial oversight. All companies would be required to adopt govt best practices and send electronic communications to them before being sent to the recipient. They claim it's to protect children but it's just another way to spy on Americans and take away our privacy, hence the, "and for other purposes," tacked on the end of it. Link to bill, S.1207 www.congress.gov/118/bills/s1207/BILLS-118s1207is.xmlIsnt' that the case already? Not that it's a bad thing in this case, but this pedophile was arrested from his Google search on how to commit his crime. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12051989/Paedophile-28-Googled-lure-child-car-jailed-eight-years.htmlNot really, if it was, there would be no need for the bill. The govt has strongarmed companies like Google into spying on the customers. This new bill would allow them to see your phone or other electronic communications which would make it possible to censor or block communication. I believe it includes ALL electronic communications, including when you buy or sell stock, etc. It would also be possible to read the communications of people who are interacting with law enforcement. Law enforcement has been fighting people's right to record interactions with them because it has uncovered a lot of wrongdoing. Law enforcement also wants the ability to read instant communications in real time. The claim being they can use it to intercept robberies before they happen or prevent rioting, but it also has the potential for oppression. Do we really want the reigning political party to have access to their opponent's communication? Or possibly interfere with certain commercial communication? Edit, I forgot to mention the part where you would be unable to encrypt your messages to hide them from anyone. They would be sent unencrypted to the govt first, then encrypted, and sent to the recipient. Goodbye freedom.
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Post by Xeliou66 on May 10, 2023 20:59:49 GMT
Fuck that, sounds like a blatant violation of the Bill of Rights. The government has no business reading our text messages. This erosion of civil liberties really started in the post 9/11 era, and it’s what the elites want, they want people to be afraid and to not have privacy so that we can become their slaves easier. And the hatred for the 4th Amendment is bipartisan - more Republicans support crap like this than Dems, but plenty of establishment Dems will back this legislation as well. Really the only people who care about civil liberties are the progressive left and the libertarian right. And it’s sickening how people who stand up for the Bill of Rights are called “pro criminal” and in some cases “un-American”, when there is nothing more American than supporting the Bill of Rights.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 21:08:40 GMT
Fuck that, sounds like a blatant violation of the Bill of Rights. The government has no business reading our text messages. This erosion of civil liberties really started in the post 9/11 era, and it’s what the elites want, they want people to be afraid and to not have privacy so that we can become their slaves easier. And the hatred for the 4th Amendment is bipartisan - more Republicans support crap like this than Dems, but plenty of establishment Dems will back this legislation as well. Really the only people who care about civil liberties are the progressive left and the libertarian right. And it’s sickening how people who stand up for the Bill of Rights are called “pro criminal” and in some cases “un-American”, when there is nothing more American than supporting the Bill of Rights. I'm afraid Biden will sign this, too. The more that comes out about all the money his family was getting while he was in office, the more obvious it is he is just a fucking crooked puppet. Sorry, not sorry, Dems need to primary his ass and get him out of there. He's been a shitshow, and even convicted of sexual battery, Trump is LEADING HIM IN THE POLLS. WTF does that tell you?
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Post by Xeliou66 on May 10, 2023 21:15:21 GMT
Fuck that, sounds like a blatant violation of the Bill of Rights. The government has no business reading our text messages. This erosion of civil liberties really started in the post 9/11 era, and it’s what the elites want, they want people to be afraid and to not have privacy so that we can become their slaves easier. And the hatred for the 4th Amendment is bipartisan - more Republicans support crap like this than Dems, but plenty of establishment Dems will back this legislation as well. Really the only people who care about civil liberties are the progressive left and the libertarian right. And it’s sickening how people who stand up for the Bill of Rights are called “pro criminal” and in some cases “un-American”, when there is nothing more American than supporting the Bill of Rights. I'm afraid Biden will sign this, too. The more that comes out about all the money his family was getting while he was in office, the more obvious it is he is just a fucking crooked puppet. Sorry, not sorry, Dems need to primary his ass and get him out of there. He's been a shitshow, and even convicted of sexual battery, Trump is LEADING HIM IN THE POLLS. WTF does that tell you? Oh yes, Biden is a huge supporter of the Patriot Act so it’s likely he would support this as well. The Dems want someone the elites can control, and Biden is the perfect example of that. They would rather lose to Trump than win with a non establishment candidate. I think they know that Kamala and Pete the Cheat are unelectable so they are running Biden again. I really wish RFK or Marianne had a chance in the primary but the Dems won’t even hold debates, probably because Biden would get embarrassed. Biden is a joke, and the Dems don’t care - they love his position of “nothing will change”.
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Post by Meseia on May 10, 2023 21:36:46 GMT
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Post by merh on May 10, 2023 23:40:32 GMT
I figured when they started making my convicted felon clients give up their DNA that we all would be by the time I retired.
Didn't happen.
But I figured it would be promoted in the name of THE CHILDREN!!!! If we had all of their DNA on file from birth, they could be tracked if kidnapped!
Still waiting for that angle.
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