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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 10:50:28 GMT
This is not meant to be an attack on anybody, but a persons faith is not based on some divine truth or holy scriptures, its in most cases based on family, geography and culture, and the lucky thing is that, the faith you have is always the correct one. You can belive in God, there is nothing wrong in believing, but the fact is this, there is no evidence that the God you belive in, is anymore real than the Gods you don`t belive in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2023 13:34:23 GMT
I suppose that's true, but does it matter to someone who has faith? A Christian can acknowledge that if they lived at another time and place they might worship Vishnu instead, but as it stands they have faith in Christ and not in Vishnu. And if the level of evidence is roughly equal for Christ or Vishnu then they may as well keep following Christ rather than Vishnu.
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Post by bomtombadil on Jun 19, 2023 13:49:11 GMT
I suppose that's true, but does it matter to someone who has faith? A Christian can acknowledge that if they lived at another time and place they might worship Vishnu instead, but as it stands they have faith in Christ and not in Vishnu. And if the level of evidence is roughly equal for Christ or Vishnu then they may as well keep following Christ rather than Vishnu. Is Christ that 2 armed weirdo? Yeah, like gods only have 2 arms lololol!
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 8:54:58 GMT
This is not meant to be an attack on anybody, but a persons faith is not based on some divine truth or holy scriptures, its in most cases based on family, geography and culture, and the lucky thing is that, the faith you have is always the correct one. You can believe in God, there is nothing wrong in believing, but the fact is this, there is no evidence that the God you believe in, is anymore real than the Gods you don`t believe in. I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2023 12:14:25 GMT
This is not meant to be an attack on anybody, but a persons faith is not based on some divine truth or holy scriptures, its in most cases based on family, geography and culture, and the lucky thing is that, the faith you have is always the correct one. You can believe in God, there is nothing wrong in believing, but the fact is this, there is no evidence that the God you believe in, is anymore real than the Gods you don`t believe in. I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
This is what you call grandiloquence talk or in this case grandiloquence writing.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 12:39:15 GMT
I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
This is what you call grandiloquence talk or in this case grandiloquence writing. It doesn't mean anything is wrong with it just because something is over your head.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 3, 2023 15:24:34 GMT
This is not meant to be an attack on anybody, but a persons faith is not based on some divine truth or holy scriptures, its in most cases based on family, geography and culture, and the lucky thing is that, the faith you have is always the correct one. You can believe in God, there is nothing wrong in believing, but the fact is this, there is no evidence that the God you believe in, is anymore real than the Gods you don`t believe in. I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
So much is wrong with that post, it's difficult to know where to begin...
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 3, 2023 16:40:20 GMT
I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
This is what you call grandiloquence talk or in this case grandiloquence writing. I'm pretty sure that's Arlon
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 16:56:59 GMT
I'm guessing poetry isn't your long suit. I saw a guy on a religious TV channel recently who said he believed the world could be made in six "literal" days, that is six times twenty-four hours. That's new. I have known many profoundly religious people all my life and no one I knew as a kid believed that -- either when I was a kid or now. Maybe poetry isn't that guy's long suit either. Consider an example of a "story" with a "moral" lesson. Tithonus Tithonus had an opportunity to have a wish granted. He wished for eternal life. As he got older his ability to hear diminished. His sight diminished also. He could no longer walk without a cane. He got more and more miserable with the long passing of time. Then he realized he should have wished for eternal youth. There are variations on the Greek "myth" of Tithonus. In most of them the moral lesson to be extracted is that our efforts to live longer through various "medical" practices avail very little and we all die at about the same time if we die of old age. That of course is very roughly speaking. Some people do live longer and some do experience what they believe is a higher quality of life. It is however nearly impossible in most cases to be certain why. Generally speaking many (not all) "medical" practices are of dubious worth. Medicine as practiced on human beings cannot be entirely "scientific" anyway. While it is possible to conduct "science" on cockroaches or perhaps mice, it is not possible to control enough of the various factors with humans. It is illegal for example to experiment on prisoners in cages. Because atheists are typically mentally retarded, they have a blind faith in the "science" of medicine on humans. They obviously misread the data on death rates during covid. Was Tithonus a "real" person? Probably not. That shouldn't matter though. His story is one with a lesson for many real people even after all these centuries. Was Jesus a "real" person? I suppose it is possible some grand conspiracy made up some details here and there. I don't know. That is not the point anymore than it is the point with Tithonus. When Jesus "died" on the cross he did not necessarily have wounds to his heart or brains or even likely his lungs. When the soldier pierced his "side" it was likely his intestines, which might indeed contain water. Atheists and people who take the Bible too literally are two sides of the same bad coin. They cannot read above a very rudimentary level. At higher levels of reading there is no conflict between science and religion. The problem in the United States insofar as it can be described as a conflict between science and religion is caused by somewhat "retarded" people.
Religious media; television, radio, and internet, often avoid admitting how much higher level allegory, symbolism, metaphor and parable are in religious scriptures in order to appeal to a wider audience that includes children. It is of course far worse on "social" media where children and clearly retarded adults engage in their antics, such as you might find here.
So much is wrong with that post, it's difficult to know where to begin... I was not hoping you would engage in your antics. Worse things could happen though.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 17:17:18 GMT
This is what you call grandiloquence talk or in this case grandiloquence writing. I'm pretty sure that's Arlon Someone made a lasting impression you? Got a link?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 3, 2023 19:03:38 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's Arlon Someone made a lasting impression you? Got a link? He was on the old board, I don't see him on this board, which leads me to believe you're probably him. So are you Arlon? Yes or no?
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 19:11:38 GMT
Someone made a lasting impression you? Got a link? He was on the old board, I don't see him on this board, which leads me to believe you're probably him. So are you Arlon? Yes or no? You have something against Olaf?
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jul 3, 2023 19:17:17 GMT
He was on the old board, I don't see him on this board, which leads me to believe you're probably him. So are you Arlon? Yes or no? You have something against Olaf? Since Arlon was known for posting esoteric gibberish and not answering questions, I'll take that as a yes.
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Post by Olaf Plunket on Jul 3, 2023 19:28:43 GMT
You have something against Olaf? Since Arlon was known for posting esoteric gibberish and not answering questions, I'll take that as a yes. So I'm this "Arlon" and I can read at a much higher level than you, which annoys you? It's the kids on social media who annoy me.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 4, 2023 22:34:52 GMT
So much is wrong with that post, it's difficult to know where to begin... I was not hoping you would engage in your antics. Worse things could happen though. I was not hoping to read a post like yours, but guess what. Worse things could happen though--you could run for public office. In the US today, you'd probably win.
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