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Post by PresArvid47 on Jul 4, 2023 19:13:54 GMT
Naturally, Israel attacks hospitals. =============================================================================== mondoweiss.net/2023/07/jenin-invasion-day-2-israeli-forces-attack-hospitals/Jenin Invasion Day 2: Israeli forces attack hospitalsPalestinians in the Jenin refugee camp entered their second day of an Israeli invasion on Tuesday, July 4. More than 36 hours after it began, Israeli troops are still besieging the camp and have reportedly attacked nearby hospitals.  PALESTINIANS CARRY A DEAD BODY EVACUATED FROM JENIN REFUGEE CAMP DURING THE SECOND DAY OF AN ISRAELI MILITARY OPERATION, JULY 4, 2023. (PHOTO: ALAA BADARNEH/EFE VIA ZUMA PRESS/APA IMAGES) Palestinians in the Jenin refugee camp entered their second day of Israeli invasion on Tuesday, July 4. More than 36 hours after the invasion began, Israeli troops are still besieging the camp, enforcing closures on entrances and exits around the refugee camp, which lies in the heart of Jenin city in the northern West Bank.
According to local sources, at around 7:40 pm local time (5:40 pm GMT) Israeli forces attacked the area around the Ibn Sina hospital near the camp, where a number of injured Palestinians are being treated, and where locals from the camp have evacuated. Video footage showed Israeli military trucks entering the vicinity of the hospital, while the Ministry of Health said that troops stormed the hospital.
In a second hospital in Jenin, at the governmental hospital, the health ministry said Israeli troops also stormed the hospital and began firing towards people, causing three injuries, two of which were reported to be serious. “This aggression is a violation of all international laws and norms, Dr. Mai al-Kailah, the minister of health said in a statement. She added that since Israel’s invasion of the camp began early Monday, its troops have attacked three Palestinian hospitals in Jenin.
Meanwhile, inside the refugee camp, local journalist Mohammad Abed told Mondoweiss that “confrontations are persisting between Israeli forces and armed youth inside the camp,” adding that confrontations are also taking place near the entrance to the camp, and near the “cinema” circle in Jenin city.
In addition to engaging in gunfights with Israeli forces, resistance groups in the camp have also heavily employed the use of homemade bombs and explosives to target Israeli military convoys raiding the camp. Abed added that youth have also been throwing homemade explosives toward Israeli troops surrounding the camp.
As of Tuesday evening local time, the death toll in Jenin rose to 11 Palestinians, which, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, included at least four minors. The health ministry added that it has treated 120 people for injuries as a result of the raid, 20 of whom are in serious and critical condition.
The most recent casualty was announced at 6:40pm local time (4:40 pm GMT), when the 11th Palestinian succumbed to wounds sustained in the head by Israeli fire. The identity of the person had not yet been revealed by the ministry. The other 10 Palestinians who have been killed in Jenin since Monday have been identified as:
Samih Faris Abu Aloufa, 20 Hussam Mohammad Abu Dhiba, 18 Ows Hani Hanoun, 19 Nour al-Din Hussam Marshoud, 16 Mohammad Muhannad al-Shami, 23 Ahmad Mohammad Amer, 21 Majdi Younis Ararawi, 17 Ali Hani al-Ghoul, 17 Mustafa Emad Qasem, 16 Odai Ibrahim Khamayseh, 22
Outside of Jenin, two Palestinians have been killed. On Monday morning, July 3rd, Israeli forces shot and killed a young Palestinian man near the town of al-Bireh in the Ramallah area while protesting Israel’s invasion of Jenin.
On Tuesday afternoon, a Palestinian was shot and killed after allegedly carrying out a car ramming and stabbing in Tel Aviv. Israeli media identified him as Hassan Khalila, 23, from al-Samu’ in Hebron. Seven Israelis were injured in the attack, though no deaths were reported. Hamas claimed Khalila as one of its members, saying that he carried out the car-ramming and stabbing in response to the Israeli invasion of Jenin.
 PALESTINIAN PROTESTERS CLASH WITH ISRAELI FORCES FOLLOWING A DEMONSTRATION IN THE WEST BANK CITY OF HEBRON PROTESTING THE SECOND DAY OF THE MILITARY OPERATION IN JENIN, ON JULY 4, 2023. (PHOTO: MAMOUN WAZWAZ/APAIMAGES) Protests against the Israeli invasion in Jenin have broken out across Gaza and the West Bank, with demonstrations reported in Gaza City, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Hebron, Jericho, and Nablus.
In the West Bank, Israeli forces suppressed Palestinian protesters with tear gas, rubber bullets, and live ammunition. On Monday evening, Israeli forces fired tear gas heavily into the Aida refugee camp in Bethlehem following protests in the camp. Israeli forces also suppressed protests on the main road of Bethlehem on Monday and Tuesday. According to local reports, at least two Palestinians were injured with lie ammunition during protests in the al-Bireh area of Ramallah on Tuesday.
Exodus from the camp
Since the Israeli invasion began early Monday morning at around 1 a.m., Israeli forces have carried out several airstrikes on the camp, in addition to the ground invasion being conducted by over a thousand Israeli troops and hundreds of armored military vehicles.
On Monday night at around 9:00 pm local time (7:00 pm GMT), videos began surfacing of Palestinians fleeing the camp on foot in large numbers. Some videos showed Israeli jeeps calling out over the loudspeakers for the civilians to raise their hands in the air as they exited the camp. Some reports claimed that Israeli forces ordered Palestinians in the camp to leave, giving them a two-hour window before renewed airstrikes. Other reports indicated that many of the families were fleeing simply out of fear for their lives after witnessing the level of destruction wreaked on the camp on Monday.
According to the Palestinian Red Crescent, more than 3,000 Palestinians have evacuated the camp over the past two days. The red crescent estimated the number to be around 500 families. For reference, the Jenin refugee camp is home to around 15,000 Palestinian refugees, according to camp activists.
Videos circulating on social media showed the Palestinian refugees who fled their homes gathering at local hospitals to seek refuge. Other videos that went viral showed Israeli forces firing tear gas at men, women, and children as they were evacuating the camp.
Palestinians described the scenes coming out of the camp as reminiscent of the Nakba in 1948, when Palestinian refugees – including the forefathers of those in the Jenin camp – were forced out of their homelands in historic Palestine by Zionist militias.
Israel claims near victory in Jenin, Netanyahu says not a ‘one-time thing’
On Tuesday evening local time, Israeli officials were releasing statements to the media that seemed to indicate that the end of the operation in Jenin could be near. When the operation began, it was intentionally described by Israeli officials as an “open-ended” operation, with the goal of destroying “terrorist infrastructure” in the camp.
At around 6:30 pm local time (4:30 pm GMT), the Times of Israel reported Defense Minister Yoav Gallant as saying “in the past two years it had become a factory for terror. In the past two days, this ended.” “We cut off the weapons manufacturing process, captured thousands of bombs, destroyed dozens of production sites, workshops and explosives labs,” he continued. “We will reach a situation where we can move everywhere… with a squad and not an entire brigade.”
Around the same time, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that Israeli forces were “completing the mission” in Jenin, adding that “our wide scale action in Jenin is not a one-time thing.” “We will continue [to operate] as necessary to root out terrorism. We will not allow Jenin to go back to being a hotbed of terror,” he said.
RESIDENTS OF THE JENIN REFUGEE CAMP EVACUATE UNDER THREAT OF ISRAELI BOMBING, JUNE 3, 2023. (PHOTO VIA GETTY IMAGES) ‘The Nakba reborn’: What a Palestinian journalist saw while covering the Jenin invasionMohammed Abed reports from Jenin: “What I saw in Jenin was the Nakba reborn. We were transported back to 1948, and 1967, and 2002, when the Jenin refugee camp was leveled. This has been the fate of the people of the camp over the past 24 hours.”
ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU AND THEN VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN TALK ON THE SIDELINES OF THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM IN DAVOS, SWITZERLAND, IN JANUARY 2016. (PHOTO: MICHEL EULER/ AP) Biden plays Netanyahu’s lapdog– but many in U.S. are critical of Jenin onslaughtPhil Weiss writes: “The Biden administration supports the Israeli invasion of Jenin wholeheartedly and is echoing the Netanyahu government’s claim that the city is a “nest of terrorists.” But many voices in the West, including the media, are skeptical.”
 SUPPORTERS OF THE HAMAS MOVEMENT DEMONSTRATE IN JABALIA IN THE GAZA STRIP ON JULY 3, 2023, TO PROTEST THE ISRAELI MILITARY OPERATION IN THE WEST BANK CITY OF JENIN. (PHOTO: RAMEZ HABOUB/APA IMAGES) Will Gaza respond to Israel’s operation in Jenin?
Tareq Hajjaj reports from Gaza: Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza have not yet responded to the Israeli invasion of Jenin, but political analysts say if the assault on the city is prolonged then “confrontation is inevitable.” |
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Post by PresArvid47 on Jul 4, 2023 19:47:57 GMT
Bump to remind people Israel has no decency.
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Post by SciFive on Jul 4, 2023 19:51:27 GMT
This camp has 18,000 people.
If they have hospitals, they’re mostly medicine cabinets.
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Post by PresArvid47 on Jul 4, 2023 20:37:28 GMT
Stop justifying attacking hospitals Sci.
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jul 4, 2023 20:41:05 GMT
Israel is an evil nation, the evidence for this statement is overwhelming. But Zionists get a free pass from the American establishment when they commit acts of terror.
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Post by marsatax on Jul 4, 2023 22:06:57 GMT
Bump to remind people Israel has no decency. As opposed to Arvid, a person who openly approves of eugenics, infanticide, and Genocide. If a person wants to be decent, he should study Arvid's attitude carefully, and then do the opposite. Mars: “The 1939 British White Paper, which cut off Palestine to Jewish immigration, cost hundreds of thousands of lives and was one of history's biggest mistakes.” Arvid: “The world would have been better off if the White Papers had come sooner.” Mars: “Then even more Jews would have perished in the Holocaust. Do you really think that would have been better?” Arvid: “Unquestionably, yes.” Mars: “Well at least you are honest. Would you like me to put this little segment of dialog as my signature? I think you would be embarrassed. A good paraphrase would be: Arvid believes that a larger Genocide, with more Jews being murdered and less escaping to Palestine, would have been unquestionably better for the world.” Arvid: “If you respected my honesty, please quote directly and paraphrase as little as possible. I would also prefer if you included a negative consequence (Ex: Arvid believes that rather than destabilizing the whole Middle East . . .).” Mars: “Fair enough. You think Genocide is better than ‘instability’.” |
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Post by marsatax on Jul 4, 2023 22:10:19 GMT
Israel is an evil nation, the evidence for this statement is overwhelming. But Zionists get a free pass from the American establishment when they commit acts of terror. No, nations are not evil. GOVERNMENTS can be evil, e.g. North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc., but Israel is a free democracy, which is the best kind of government. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jul 4, 2023 22:13:57 GMT
Israel is an evil nation, the evidence for this statement is overwhelming. But Zionists get a free pass from the American establishment when they commit acts of terror. No, nations are not evil. GOVERNMENTS can be evil, e.g. North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc., but Israel is a free democracy, which is the best kind of government. Israel is an apartheid state that routinely commits grotesque human rights violations. Israel is not a free democracy. You know this, you just don’t care about Israeli apartheid because Israel is a Jewish supremacist state, and you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency. |
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Post by marsatax on Jul 4, 2023 22:29:33 GMT
No, nations are not evil. GOVERNMENTS can be evil, e.g. North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc., but Israel is a free democracy, which is the best kind of government. Israel is an apartheid state that routinely commits grotesque human rights violations. Israel is not a free democracy. You know this, you just don’t care about Israeli apartheid because Israel is a Jewish supremacist state, and you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency.
Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. How can Israel be an "apartheid state" when Israeli Arabs are citizens, have rights, vote, and serve in public office? Do you even know what apartheid is? routinely commits grotesque human rights violations.
Guess what? War is essentially one huge human rights violation. That's why I look for ways to end it. You, in contrast hate peace (calling it "surrender"), love war, and want the Israelis to "get kicked in the teeth". You also have no problem with the murder of little children and babies, as at Itamar, because they were Jewish "scum". Israel is not a free democracy. You know this
On the contrary, I, and the majority of Americans, know in their bones that Israel is a free democracy. Israel's people, including Israeli Arabs, have all the usual rights, they vote, and they serve in public office. Israel's newspapers run the spectrum from right to left and are constantly criticizing the government. As for freedom of speech, as I sometimes joke, if an Israeli Arab condemns Zionism, he doesn't go to prison; instead he serves in parliament! You can't accept any of this because Israel is the Jewish state and you hate all things Jewish. Israel is a Jewish supremacist stateOnce again, repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. How can Israel be a "Jewish supremacist state" when non-Jewish judges had the power to send an Israeli prime minister and an Israeli president to prison? If you are going to spread lies, at least make them semi-believable. you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency. If that were true, I would never condemn Israel for anything. But in fact, I do so all the time. Meanwhile, you are one to talk about "human rights and decency", when you cannot condemn the deliberate murder of children and babies when they are Jews. Your hatred takes precedence over any alleged belief in decency. |
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Post by PresArvid47 on Jul 4, 2023 22:43:57 GMT
No, nations are not evil. GOVERNMENTS can be evil, e.g. North Korea, Iran, China, Russia, etc., but Israel is a free democracy, which is the best kind of government. Israel is an apartheid state that routinely commits grotesque human rights violations. Israel is not a free democracy. You know this, you just don’t care about Israeli apartheid because Israel is a Jewish supremacist state, and you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency. A 'free' democracy for Jews who support the current coalition and no one else. |
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Post by Xeliou66 on Jul 5, 2023 1:01:33 GMT
marsataxIsrael is not a free democracy, I’ve posted many times about how Israel steals land and resources and denies basic rights to Arabs. You excuse every evil act Israel commits except for the most indefensible because you are a Zionist fanatic. Every international law scholar disagrees with you about the settlements, and every legit human rights group agrees Israel is an apartheid state. I don’t hate all things Jewish, I hate all things Zionist. Zionism is racism and ethnic supremacy. It’s you who believes Jews are entitled to special treatment because of historical anti Semitism. Two wrongs don’t make a right in my view. I am a moral and decent person and it’s why I believe Palestinians are equal to everyone else and deserve equal rights, apparently that makes me a Jew hater.
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Post by SciFive on Jul 5, 2023 6:08:10 GMT
Israel is an apartheid state that routinely commits grotesque human rights violations. Israel is not a free democracy. You know this, you just don’t care about Israeli apartheid because Israel is a Jewish supremacist state, and you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency.
Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. How can Israel be an "apartheid state" when Israeli Arabs are citizens, have rights, vote, and serve in public office? Do you even know what apartheid is? routinely commits grotesque human rights violations.
Guess what? War is essentially one huge human rights violation. That's why I look for ways to end it. You, in contrast hate peace (calling it "surrender"), love war, and want the Israelis to "get kicked in the teeth". You also have no problem with the murder of little children and babies, as at Itamar, because they were Jewish "scum". Israel is not a free democracy. You know this
On the contrary, I, and the majority of Americans, know in their bones that Israel is a free democracy. Israel's people, including Israeli Arabs, have all the usual rights, they vote, and they serve in public office. Israel's newspapers run the spectrum from right to left and are constantly criticizing the government. As for freedom of speech, as I sometimes joke, if an Israeli Arab condemns Zionism, he doesn't go to prison; instead he serves in parliament! You can't accept any of this because Israel is the Jewish state and you hate all things Jewish. Israel is a Jewish supremacist stateOnce again, repeating a lie over and over again does not make it true. How can Israel be a "Jewish supremacist state" when non-Jewish judges had the power to send an Israeli prime minister and an Israeli president to prison? If you are going to spread lies, at least make them semi-believable. you are Jewish and put the interests of Zionist Jews ahead of human rights and decency. If that were true, I would never condemn Israel for anything. But in fact, I do so all the time. Meanwhile, you are one to talk about "human rights and decency", when you cannot condemn the deliberate murder of children and babies when they are Jews. Your hatred takes precedence over any alleged belief in decency. The press (some of it) is referring to Pal fighters just under 18 as “children” again as if they’re little kids. Many of them do this every time. The BBC wised up in 2014, however, by calling them “combat aged males”. It made a huge difference in their stories. |
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Post by PresArvid47 on Jul 5, 2023 6:26:32 GMT
Still justifying attacks on hospitals.
There is no low you won't stoop to, Sci
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Post by marsatax on Jul 6, 2023 15:05:37 GMT
Still justifying attacks on hospitals. There is no low you won't stoop to, Sci Sci, ask Arvid to condemn the Palestinian attempt to suicide-bomb an Israeli hospital. I think he'll say, "That's different . . ." LOL en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_al_Bass"Wafa al Bass (Wafa al-Biss, b. 1984) is a Palestinian Arab resident of Gaza who was permitted to enter Israel for the purpose of being treated at an Israeli hospital in 2005. She wore a suicide bomb vest which she attempted to explode as she crossed into Israel via the Erez Crossing." "Al Bass had been given permission to enter Israel to receive hospital treatment for severe burns, which she then received. During one of her return visits, guards at the crossing became suspicious and discovered that under her traditional black robes she had strapped a 22-pound bomb to her leg. When questioned, she said that she hoped to explode the bomb after arriving at the hospital where she had been treated." |
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Post by marsatax on Jul 6, 2023 15:09:44 GMT
Israel is an evil nation, the evidence for this statement is overwhelming. But Zionists get a free pass from the American establishment when they commit acts of terror.
. . . to anti-Semites everywhere. Despite all of its flaws and weaknesses, Israel is a free democracy (despite all your lies to the contrary), which is the best kind of government. You condemn Israel as "evil" because in your twisted system of ethics, Jews are not allowed to fight back against their enemies; they should just roll over and die. |
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