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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 21:16:12 GMT
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Post by movieliker on Jan 13, 2018 21:31:19 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." |
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Post by warlock on Jan 13, 2018 22:21:01 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." So what is your take then, on those very women not speaking up 20/30/40 years ago because they thought more of a Hollywood career than what they allege happened to them or all the other women who came after them who might have avoided such abuse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 22:34:50 GMT
www.mediaite.com/online/pamela-anderson-weinsteins-accusers-knew-what-they-were-getting-into-by-going-to-hotel-rooms-alone/Pamela Anderson: Weinstein’s Accusers Knew What They Were ‘Getting Into’ by Going to Hotel Rooms Alone Even some dumbass blonde has more comon sense than 99% of the media and hollywood actresses.Nobody thought this? Why didnt they just NOT go ? Becuase they wanted to be rich and famous thats why, and they felt its a small price to pay for just that. Even a B actress like Rose Mcgowan has at Net Worth of 18 mil If she has a problem how she became an actress, she could have quit long ago Otherwise 99% of the gorgeous women in Hollywood would still be pumping gas or putting tattoos on someones arm at a parlor shop back home
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Post by movieliker on Jan 14, 2018 0:21:35 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." So what is your take then, on those very women not speaking up 20/30/40 years ago because they thought more of a Hollywood career than what they allege happened to them or all the other women who came after them who might have avoided such abuse. No, two things; 1 - Complaining or reporting abuse would not have done any good. Why waste their time and energy? 2 - Complaining or reporting abuse would have caused them to be black-balled from doing what they loved, what they liked doing, and what was paying the bills. If their complaining or reporting abuse had gotten any noteriety, they could be nationally --- possibly internationally given a bad reputation that would result in not being able to get a job anywhere, in any line of work. And socially shamed to the point nobody would want to date them, marry them, or even be their friend. To sum up, taking action would do no good --- no positive result. Taking action would probably cost them their job, their career, their ability to work anywhere, make money, earn a living, and their social reputation. In other words, it could cost them everything. Understand? No upside. All downside. Last but not least, the best way to help women of the future would be to suffer through and possibly make money and gain fame. The most successful women were less vulnerable to abuse because of having more money and power in the industry. Secondly, they could use that power to protect women of the future. Which is what is happening now. Women of the past did complain and report abuse. And they were told by everyone --- superiors, men, women, executives, attorneys, law enforcement, family, friends, etc. --- either, "We don't believe you. --- or --- "Don't waste your time. You will gain nothing and lose everything." |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 14, 2018 1:31:05 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." As far as I can tell 90% seem to be only alleged and people are losing jobs and their credibility with zero proof of any wrong doing. That is not right in my book. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 14, 2018 1:57:28 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." As far as I can tell 90% seem to be only alleged and people are losing jobs and their credibility with zero proof of any wrong doing. That is not right in my book. No it isn't right. But neither was most of human history being a "free for all" for men to abuse women with no consequence. It will be a long time before both sides are even. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 2:31:44 GMT
Whenever there is any movement to get rid of a few bad apples, there will be a few good apples that see consequences. Bound to happen. If Liam Neeson is unhappy with the current movement to identify and punish sex offenders, maybe he should have done something before when women were being abused and nothing was happening. Like the commercial says, "You can pay me a little now. Or you you can pay me more later." As far as I can tell 90% seem to be only alleged and people are losing jobs and their credibility with zero proof of any wrong doing. That is not right in my book. I totally agree. I know there are ones with several people witnessing it to back them up But what about all the ones where there is no witnesses? not a shred of proof at all What about Kevin Spacey? He was forced off House of Cards ( something I will NEVER forgive Netflix for and I promise you one day we will make them pay) all because 1 B actor claims almost 30 years ago when he was a teen after a party( with no parental supervision in NY) Spacey picked him up and laid him down on the bed on top of him- for 5 seconds- and ,,,,nothing else happened. For this his career was ruined? and nobody else witnessed this. What happens if this B actor was on drug or hallucinated it? We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty but with the Hollywood libtards think people are guilty until proven innocent? Actually that makes sense since Hollywood liberals are all for socialism- thats pretty damn close to communism like the Soviet Union where you WERE guilty until proven innocent and people were sent off to siberal for years in the gulags for no reason at all usually. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 14, 2018 2:51:28 GMT
As far as I can tell 90% seem to be only alleged and people are losing jobs and their credibility with zero proof of any wrong doing. That is not right in my book. No it isn't right. But neither was most of human history being a "free for all" for men to abuse women with no consequence. It will be a long time before both sides are even. So this is all about getting even and justice can just go out the window? So much for innocent until proven guilty. |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 14, 2018 3:04:07 GMT
No it isn't right. But neither was most of human history being a "free for all" for men to abuse women with no consequence. It will be a long time before both sides are even. So this is all about getting even and justice can just go out the window? So much for innocent until proven guilty. Hey, payback's a bitch. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 3:10:21 GMT
So this is all about getting even and justice can just go out the window? So much for innocent until proven guilty. Hey, payback's a bitch. What happens if you were a movie producer for years- well respected and never sexually harassed someone Then some actress you were planning on casting after a few interviews you turn her down.. then she turns around to get even with you and claims you sexually harassed her and she refused? How would you prove it never happened? Your career could be over for someones spitefulness. I am sure this has happened at least once... |
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Post by movieliker on Jan 14, 2018 3:33:13 GMT
What happens if you were a movie producer for years- well respected and never sexually harassed someone Then some actress you were planning on casting after a few interviews you turn her down.. then she turns around to get even with you and claims you sexually harassed her and she refused? How would you prove it never happened? Your career could be over for someones spitefulness. I am sure this has happened at least once... I don't believe it is that easy. All the victims of accusers of sexual misconduct had multiple accusers. It would take more than one spiteful woman hell bent on revenge to insure career or financial consequences. And eventually I believe --- just like rape --- society will demand punishment for false accusations. And don't forget, there are already legal consequences for defamation and slander. |
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jan 14, 2018 3:38:57 GMT
So this is all about getting even and justice can just go out the window? So much for innocent until proven guilty. Hey, payback's a bitch. Payback? I'm sorry but that is an incredibly warped way of thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 4:15:51 GMT
What happens if you were a movie producer for years- well respected and never sexually harassed someone Then some actress you were planning on casting after a few interviews you turn her down.. then she turns around to get even with you and claims you sexually harassed her and she refused? How would you prove it never happened? Your career could be over for someones spitefulness. I am sure this has happened at least once... I don't believe it is that easy. All the victims of accusers of sexual misconduct had multiple accusers. It would take more than one spiteful woman hell bent on revenge to insure career or financial consequences. And eventually I believe --- just like rape --- society will demand punishment for false accusations. And don't forget, there are already legal consequences for defamation and slander. Thats a bit naive on both counts 1. It is that easy! I have heard it happen! 20 years ago a friend of mine knew a teacher who left 3 kids after school for detention 20 years ago and was innocent of any wrong doing but the kids all claim he sexually molested them. 10 months later 1 of the kids recanted the story but the damage was done. The teacher didnt lose his job exactly but was semi urged to resign and move to another city and school. I dont know if hes okay or not anymore. Accusations seem to be enough these days because of the almighty womens rights. 2.How are they going to prove its a false accusations? Will every producer or actor or anyone in hollywood wear a bodycam 24/7/365 whenever they are around a coworker or costar on and off the set?! |
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Post by ayatollah on Jan 14, 2018 4:28:37 GMT
As far as I can tell 90% seem to be only alleged and people are losing jobs and their credibility with zero proof of any wrong doing. That is not right in my book. No it isn't right. But neither was most of human history being a "free for all" for men to abuse women with no consequence. It will be a long time before both sides are even. Men like you, who think this is a team sport, should just offer to play scapegoat and let like minded women run over you with their cars or something, and you can leave us sane people get on with life. |
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