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Post by 99999 on Aug 4, 2023 17:14:41 GMT
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Post by general313 on Aug 4, 2023 18:10:17 GMT
You wouldn't be saying any of this if it weren't for religious people. You wouldn't even have ever heard the name Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2023 18:28:23 GMT
The only place that happens, is in the fantasy world that Christians have created in their mind.
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Post by 99999 on Aug 4, 2023 19:52:20 GMT
Remember Jesus was executed on political charges.
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Post by clusium on Aug 4, 2023 23:43:01 GMT
Remember Jesus was executed on political charges. Yes, but, trumped up ones, by none other than religious people. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 6, 2023 5:53:17 GMT
But Jesus was also God and could have easily not let himself not be killed. All that bad shit the Evangelicals say he's going to do to all us sinners when he gets back...any day now...he could have done back then and saved humanity a whole heap of grief. But you're right, church(es) didn't do so well uniting humankind.
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household."
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 6, 2023 5:54:48 GMT
Remember Jesus was executed on political charges. For calling himself King of the Jews. That was against the law and Rome was all about law and order. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 6, 2023 5:56:14 GMT
Remember Jesus was executed on political charges. Yes, but, trumped up ones, by none other than religious people. No, he actually broke the law by claiming to be the rightful king of Judaea. |
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Post by amyghost on Aug 6, 2023 19:42:17 GMT
I reject Jesus because I'm not into a personality cult that worships a human being who died 2000 years ago and was then turned into an invisible sky fairy.
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Post by clusium on Aug 6, 2023 22:30:32 GMT
Yes, but, trumped up ones, by none other than religious people. No, he actually broke the law by claiming to be the rightful king of Judaea. No, He Claimed no such thing. The crowds tried to make Him "King" (Gospel according to St. John chapter 6, verse 15). |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 6, 2023 22:45:14 GMT
No, he actually broke the law by claiming to be the rightful king of Judaea. No, He Claimed no such thing. The crowds tried to make Him "King" (Gospel according to St. John chapter 6, verse 15). If he was the Messiah, he was claiming to be the King of the Jews and that was sedition against Rome, who was allowing the Jewish people some leeway with their religion, so long as they cut out the messiah talk. The Romans themselves saw Jesus as just another zealot. And he was not the first Jewish messiah preaching the imminent destruction of Rome to be executed. |
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Post by clusium on Aug 7, 2023 2:30:32 GMT
No, He Claimed no such thing. The crowds tried to make Him "King" (Gospel according to St. John chapter 6, verse 15). If he was the Messiah, he was claiming to be the King of the Jews and that was sedition against Rome, who was allowing the Jewish people some leeway with their religion, so long as they cut out the messiah talk. The Romans themselves saw Jesus as just another zealot. And he was not the first Jewish messiah preaching the imminent destruction of Rome to be executed. Christ sternly Admonished His Apostles not to reveal that He Is the Messiah, and that His Mission was to Die. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 7, 2023 3:21:23 GMT
If he was the Messiah, he was claiming to be the King of the Jews and that was sedition against Rome, who was allowing the Jewish people some leeway with their religion, so long as they cut out the messiah talk. The Romans themselves saw Jesus as just another zealot. And he was not the first Jewish messiah preaching the imminent destruction of Rome to be executed. Christ sternly Admonished His Apostles not to reveal that He Is the Messiah, and that His Mission was to Die. Even so, that's how he presented himself when he rode into Jerusalem upon an ass and her colt. That was a very clear message, unless the Gospel writers attached this prophecy to Jesus after the fact, but he never actually did it. |
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Post by clusium on Aug 7, 2023 15:12:10 GMT
Christ sternly Admonished His Apostles not to reveal that He Is the Messiah, and that His Mission was to Die. Even so, that's how he presented himself when he rode into Jerusalem upon an ass and her colt. That was a very clear message, unless the Gospel writers attached this prophecy to Jesus after the fact, but he never actually did it. While yes, Our Lord was Fulfilling Old Testament Prophecy by Riding on a colt, it was actually a very Humble Way of Entering Jerusalem. He Did not Come in Riding on a horse or even a camel. THOSE - not a mere donkey foal - a way of signalling prestige or authority. Moreover, you make the assumption that the Romans would even be aware of that particular Biblical prophecy. Why would they? They allowed freedom of religion, but, would not have concerned themselves with what the Israelites believed in. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 7, 2023 19:25:33 GMT
Even so, that's how he presented himself when he rode into Jerusalem upon an ass and her colt. That was a very clear message, unless the Gospel writers attached this prophecy to Jesus after the fact, but he never actually did it. While yes, Our Lord was Fulfilling Old Testament Prophecy by Riding on a colt, it was actually a very Humble Way of Entering Jerusalem. He Did not Come in Riding on a horse or even a camel. THOSE - not a mere donkey foal - a way of signalling prestige or authority. Moreover, you make the assumption that the Romans would even be aware of that particular Biblical prophecy. Why would they? They allowed freedom of religion, but, would not have concerned themselves with what the Israelites believed in. And the streets are lined with people waving palms at him as he rides down the street. |
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