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Post by clusium on Aug 7, 2023 19:33:27 GMT
While yes, Our Lord was Fulfilling Old Testament Prophecy by Riding on a colt, it was actually a very Humble Way of Entering Jerusalem. He Did not Come in Riding on a horse or even a camel. THOSE - not a mere donkey foal - a way of signalling prestige or authority. Moreover, you make the assumption that the Romans would even be aware of that particular Biblical prophecy. Why would they? They allowed freedom of religion, but, would not have concerned themselves with what the Israelites believed in. And the streets are lined with people waving palms at him as he rides down the street. Our Lord had Been Preaching for 3 years and Performing Miracles for 3 years, hence they saw Him as the Messiah. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 7, 2023 19:36:14 GMT
And the streets are lined with people waving palms at him as he rides down the street. Our Lord had Been Preaching for 3 years and Performing Miracles for 3 years, hence they saw Him as the Messiah. Who according to the Jewish legend, is the Rightful King of Jews. |
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Post by clusium on Aug 7, 2023 23:58:04 GMT
Our Lord had Been Preaching for 3 years and Performing Miracles for 3 years, hence they saw Him as the Messiah. Who according to the Jewish legend, is the Rightful King of Jews. What about Bar Kokhba? Did he ever ride right into Jerusalem, riding upon a colt? |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 8, 2023 0:34:10 GMT
Who according to the Jewish legend, is the Rightful King of Jews. What about Bar Kokhba? Did he ever ride right into Jerusalem, riding upon a colt? Probably because he didn’t think of it. He was a warrior-messiah though. It is possible Jesus didn’t ride into town because the different Gospel accounts stumble over whether it was a donkey and her colt and Jesus was astride both them; or if the colt is following behind; or is the donkey and colt the same animal. Either Jesus himself pulled the stunt or the gospel writers were extrapolating the old Zechariah prophecy onto Jesus as part of the narrative the establish him as the Messiah. |
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Post by clusium on Aug 8, 2023 2:49:50 GMT
What about Bar Kokhba? Did he ever ride right into Jerusalem, riding upon a colt? Probably because he didn’t think of it. He was a warrior-messiah though. It is possible Jesus didn’t ride into town because the different Gospel accounts stumble over whether it was a donkey and her colt and Jesus was astride both them; or if the colt is following behind; or is the donkey and colt the same animal. Either Jesus himself pulled the stunt or the gospel writers were extrapolating the old Zechariah prophecy onto Jesus as part of the narrative the establish him as the Messiah. No, He Probably Did Ride into town on a donkey, maybe even to Fulfill the Prophecy of how He Would Enter Jerusalem. However, the Message Conveyed is, the Messiah was Not a Warrior, but, rather a Peace Maker. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 8, 2023 2:53:17 GMT
Probably because he didn’t think of it. He was a warrior-messiah though. It is possible Jesus didn’t ride into town because the different Gospel accounts stumble over whether it was a donkey and her colt and Jesus was astride both them; or if the colt is following behind; or is the donkey and colt the same animal. Either Jesus himself pulled the stunt or the gospel writers were extrapolating the old Zechariah prophecy onto Jesus as part of the narrative the establish him as the Messiah. No, He Probably Did Ride into town on a donkey, maybe even to Fulfill the Prophecy of how He Would Enter Jerusalem. However, the Message Conveyed is, the Messiah was Not a Warrior, but, rather a Peace Maker.Too bad that part didn’t come true. |
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Post by Meseia on Aug 15, 2023 5:46:44 GMT
And the streets are lined with people waving palms at him as he rides down the street. Our Lord had Been Preaching for 3 years and Performing Miracles for 3 years, hence they saw Him as the Messiah. The only miracle is that NT authors actually agreed on Jesus name, they agreed about little else. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 17, 2023 0:34:29 GMT
Our Lord had Been Preaching for 3 years and Performing Miracles for 3 years, hence they saw Him as the Messiah. The only miracle is that NT authors actually agreed on Jesus name, they agreed about little else. The only problem here is, the preaching and performing miracles part was not an expectation for the Jewish messiah, so how would street preaching and miracles, which others were doing also, prove he’s the warrior king messiah who would unshackle Judea from Rome? |
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Post by Meseia on Aug 18, 2023 6:18:45 GMT
The only miracle is that NT authors actually agreed on Jesus name, they agreed about little else. The only problem here is, the preaching and performing miracles part was not an expectation for the Jewish messiah, so how would street preaching and miracles, which others were doing also, prove he’s the warrior king messiah who would unshackle Judea from Rome? We don't even know which god was Jesus' father, so who knows really? |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 18, 2023 6:27:38 GMT
The only problem here is, the preaching and performing miracles part was not an expectation for the Jewish messiah, so how would street preaching and miracles, which others were doing also, prove he’s the warrior king messiah who would unshackle Judea from Rome? We don't even know which god was Jesus' father, so who knows really? It's Yahweh and he is rocking that goatee with a soul patch. The Jews were hip.  See the resemblance?  |
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Post by Meseia on Aug 18, 2023 6:35:57 GMT
We don't even know which god was Jesus' father, so who knows really? It's Yahweh and he is rocking that goatee with a soul patch. The Jews were hip. See the resemblance? But really, we don't know that. Many 'assume' His father was Yahweh but Jesus never named him and there are plenty of reasons to doubt it, but I've beaten that dead horse too many times. The fact is we assume Yahweh was the father of Christ but there are other credible theories on that. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 18, 2023 6:50:13 GMT
It's Yahweh and he is rocking that goatee with a soul patch. The Jews were hip. See the resemblance? But really, we don't know that. Many 'assume' His father was Yahweh but Jesus never named him and there are plenty of reasons to doubt it, but I've beaten that dead horse too many times. The fact is we assume Yahweh was the father of Christ but there are other credible theories on that. One theory is he was the result of a rape by a Roman soldier. That would explain why Joseph doesn't back out of the marriage as this would have ruined her in the community if not got her the stoning death penalty. Another is, my own actually, is the God Yahweh is the father of Jesus, much like the gods are always getting mortal women preggers, and this resulted in a demi-god, who because of his divine parentage had RH Neg blood instead of the RH Pos, aka, Rhesus Monkey blood. There are only two regions where the RH neg evolved people lived in concentration, one was the Middle East and the other in the Basque region in the Pyrenees...you know where Jesus' family allegedly fled...you know Holy Blood, Holy Grail. ![[winkgrin]](http://storage.proboards.com/6870873/images/bA0paTTaBZRRrgIXtwmI.gif) |
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Post by Meseia on Aug 20, 2023 9:38:25 GMT
But really, we don't know that. Many 'assume' His father was Yahweh but Jesus never named him and there are plenty of reasons to doubt it, but I've beaten that dead horse too many times. The fact is we assume Yahweh was the father of Christ but there are other credible theories on that. One theory is he was the result of a rape by a Roman soldier. That would explain why Joseph doesn't back out of the marriage as this would have ruined her in the community if not got her the stoning death penalty. Another is, my own actually, is the God Yahweh is the father of Jesus, much like the gods are always getting mortal women preggers, and this resulted in a demi-god, who because of his divine parentage had RH Neg blood instead of the RH Pos, aka, Rhesus Monkey blood. There are only two regions where the RH neg evolved people lived in concentration, one was the Middle East and the other in the Basque region in the Pyrenees...you know where Jesus' family allegedly fled...you know Holy Blood, Holy Grail. James Tabor discusses a Jew conscripted into the legion that had ties to Joseph's family. He names him but does not actually suggest he is the father of Jesus, but one could infer it from the evidence. But I was taking about Jesus' claim to holy fame, there are credible arguments for why it might not have been Yahweh. We can't forget, the Hebrews were polytheist. |
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Post by PaulsLaugh on Aug 20, 2023 9:49:04 GMT
One theory is he was the result of a rape by a Roman soldier. That would explain why Joseph doesn't back out of the marriage as this would have ruined her in the community if not got her the stoning death penalty. Another is, my own actually, is the God Yahweh is the father of Jesus, much like the gods are always getting mortal women preggers, and this resulted in a demi-god, who because of his divine parentage had RH Neg blood instead of the RH Pos, aka, Rhesus Monkey blood. There are only two regions where the RH neg evolved people lived in concentration, one was the Middle East and the other in the Basque region in the Pyrenees...you know where Jesus' family allegedly fled...you know Holy Blood, Holy Grail. James Tabor discusses a Jew conscripted into the legion that had ties to Joseph's family. He names him but does not actually suggest he is the father of Jesus, but one could infer it from the evidence. But I was taking about Jesus' claim to holy fame, there are credible arguments for why it might not have been Yahweh. We can't forget, the Hebrews were polytheist. Since the Greek speaking gentiles came up with the idea that Jesus was actually God, and they were not that familiar with Yahweh, they may have associated Yahweh being essentially the same as Zeus. He was known for impregnating human women with children such as Hercules. Otherwise, Yahweh is the same God throughout the Bible with the possible exception of the earliest text when the Israelites were different tribes. Israel was culturally influenced by Egypt, while the Judea was more aligned with Mesopotamian culture. The closes Egyptian god to Yahweh is Ptah, the creator god. One of his epithets is Ptah the God who made himself to be God. |
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